[ SECRET POST #3179 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3179 ⌋

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[Rupaul's Drag Race season 7]


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Comments

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

[philstar22]

This is true. Both parties play towards the more extreme side during primaries. The problem is that the extremists the Republicans play to are more extreme. And tend to have more money whereas on the Democrat side those who have the money tend to be less extreme.

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, the money in the Republican primary goes to the establishment candidates, same as in the Dem. There's probably more money for radical candidates in the Republican race, but the moneybags candidates are consistently the establishment ones - this year, look at Walker and Bush in particular who have raised insane amounts of money.

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

[philstar22]

But even the establishment is pretty far right, further right than the establishment democrats are left. Look at the Koch brothers. All of the things they are putting money into are pretty extreme right.

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

[(Anonymous)]

Walker is pretty out there in his own way. He's a wannabe tool for billionaires, in an extreme way.

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

[(Anonymous)]

I would argue that there are actually two Republican parties - those concerned with money and those concerned with conservatism. The people bank-rolling the Republicans with their billions want looser government regulations and less taxes for the wealthy. They couldn't give a flying fuck about conservatism. Many are socially liberal but they're concerned with money first and foremost.

But there aren't enough of these people to actually elect a president. So, they cater to the conservative wing of Americans.

Liberals have a similar dichotomy but I feel that liberal billionaires are often socially liberal as well as financially liberal so they can be more open in their desires. Liberals have their radicals too, who can be just as passionate as conservatives, but the eternal joke is that liberals cannot organize the way conservatives do to get their politicians to fear them the way conservatives fear their constituents.

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

[(Anonymous)]

It's kind of reversed between liberal radicals & conservative radicals. Which actually makes sense, in a way - the centrist, establishment position is combining social liberalism (or at least relative social liberalism) with pro-market, low-tax economic policies (or relatively so). So on the left, the radicals mostly agree with the social liberalism but want to reject the economic platform; on the right, the radicals are fine with the economic platform but want to burn down the social liberalism.

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

[elialshadowpine]

Yup. I've been watching, from the progressive side, the squee over Bernie Sanders. It's very reminiscent of Obama's 08 primary campaign, where he was much more progressive, and then once it went past primaries, we saw a lot more of the moderate (and even more once he became President). I expect to see a similar trajectory with Sanders, if he makes it past primaries, and I dearly hope the progressive response won't be "well, I'm just not going to vote because he's making too many concessions." A lot of people on BOTH sides don't seem to get that it's not hard line Democrats or Republicans that win the general election. It's the moderates. There's a LOT more of them, and that's part of why the Republican party is failing so hard. They're sticking to the extremes, and moderates are not gonna go for that, from either side.

I mean, ideally, that'd mean a third party candidate might have a shot, but it's a lot more likely that people just won't vote.