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Speaking as an American, I very much agree with your sentiments about the gung-ho, "AMERICA FUCK YEAH!" attitude. I find it tiring and obnoxious, too.

But considering we have people at Fox News having a conniption fit anytime Obama dares to-gasp-bow to a world leader when he meets them, because apparently by doing so he makes the presidency and the U.S. by extension look "weak" (not kidding, this is a legit belief of some people), and we have people who think daring to talk and negotiate with other countries is a sign of weakness, or who seem to think that if a politician isn't wearing a flag pin it means they aren't as patriotic or love America the way those who wear one are or do, well...

There's also the little fact that ever since Obama came into office our country's standing with the rest of the world has improved in a lot of ways, but the Republicans don't seem all that impressed by that fact, unfortunately.

Well, I don't think he ought to bow to a world leader - to anyone. This is America. The whole point is that you don't have to bow to anyone.

I'm talking about when he's greeting them when he visits their country. And it's a small bow at that, just a slight bend of the waist. I don't see the issue.

It's a matter of principle. Bowing to someone, to me, is inconsistent with the basic principle of equality.

Miss Manners, at least, is vehemently against Americans bowing. As she argues it, if you're British, you'll never bow to anyone except your own Queen, even if they're royalty in some other country. Americans don't have a Queen, so . . . https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/miss-manners-for-americans-no-bowing-allowed/2011/06/17/AGd56ivH_story.html

<3 Miss Manners

Not even in a Japanese context? There's a big, big difference between a quick bend at the waist and prostrating oneself before a king.

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to me given Japanese culture is, from my understanding, exceedingly formal at the higher levels of leadership. As far as I'm concerned, when you're a visiting dignitary, when in Rome... (And before someone strawmans, don't even bother. There's a difference between a basic level of respect expected by another culture, and going along with things that are simply not okay. A bow from the waist is not a big deal.)

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Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

Re: So, seen the Republican Nominee debate on CNN

what now?

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