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[ SECRET POST #3180 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3180 ⌋

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This is the place to ask questions about canon source material to clarify confusion about claims you've seen fans make, or fanon tropes, or characterization, when it comes to fandoms that have large sprawling canons (eg, superhero comics, some mangas, Doctor Who, Star Wars), or canons with multiple versions (eg, books adapted to movies or comics adapted to TV shows), or canons with lots of sequels/spinoffs (eg, Star Trek). You are a fan, but you haven't been able to watch/read every bit of the canon material. Or you're not a fan, but you've absorbed some knowledge through fandom osmosis and don't know if it's canon or fanon.

Either way, this is the thread where you can post your questions about what is or isn't canon!

Blanket answer to any Doctor Who canon questions: Doctor Who does not have a canon.

You can answer "well, this happened in this episode" though! Although might also have add "although then this thing that completely contradicted it happened in an episode five seasons later." ;)

Not a fan here.... how's that possible?

The fact that things change is literally built into the show mythology. Many things that happened in an episode have been written out of history by a following episode.

It has a ton of mutually contradictory shit and there's no authoritative way of saying which of it is true. Any theory that attempts to rationalize it is at best a post hoc justification by fans.

And there's an in-unverse reason too (time travel) so sometimes the contradictory-ness is an actual plot point and therefore can't be justified.

Was just recently reminded of this: was Yami Yugi from Yu-Gi-Oh evil in the original manga?

I've also heard someone say he was more like Yami Bakura too. Is this right? (I've only seen the regular Duel Monsters show, fwiw.)

From what I recall, it depends greatly on your definition of evil? Like, he straight murdered some dudes through shadow games, but only after they had been fucking with Yuugi or occasionally Yuugi's friends. No world destruction or revenge plots though.

"Evil" isn't really accurate, IMO. Extremely ruthless and rather sadistic, yeah, but his motives were never really evil. He did a lot of really bad things, like murder people and drive multiple people insane, as punishment for hurting his friends, or to protect them. Some of this was extremely disproportionate to the crime, like turning people blind or blowing them up with gunpowder in response to just regular old high school bullying, but other times he wasn't really all that disproportionate, because the bullies were often life-threateningly violent/potential rapists, and there were some straight-up adult villains.

He also developed a lot in terms of becoming more merciful and reasonable, and very steadily, through the first 50 chapters or so until he got to the point where he was on the heroic side of "anti-hero."

And no, he was nothing like the Duel Monsters version of Yami Bakura. If anything, he was the exact opposite. Yami Bakura saw Ryou as a body he needed to use in order to carry out his plans, and didn't give a shit about anybody else. Yami Yugi was obsessively devoted to his friends to the point of terrorizing anyone who hurt them. In the manga, it's a bit different but that's kind of tl;dr.

Can anyone tell me where the characterization for all Luke Skywalker's X-Wing pilot buddies on Hoth, etc, comes from? Is it from the EU novels?

Wedge and his x-wing squadron got a whole series of novels

Although only a few of those characters were actually at Hoth - I believe just Wedge, Wes Janson, and Hobbie Klivian. The rest of the movie-era Red / Rogue Squadron members are implied to pretty much all have died during the course of the Rebellion, IIRC.

It's one of my favorite things about the series - the strange position that Wedge is in as one of the few survivors of that era, trying to train a new generation. I should really reread those books. Especially the Wraith Squadron ones.

Cardcaptor Sakura question. I just finished the anime so I was curious about a few things.

Besides the instance where Yue takes Touya's magic do those two ever talk? Do we even know what Yue's feelings about Touya are or is it all based on how Yukito feels?

Also, the fact that Yue was in love with Clow, was that only in the manga?

And here comes one of the local weeaboos to answer your questions:

Besides the instance where Yue takes Touya's magic do those two ever talk?
I don't remember they talked, since their relationship wasn't really focused on, specially after the whole "Touya giving Yukito his magic" stuff. After that, their relationship is not really focused on much. I do think they talked before the Sakura vs Clow fight, but it was mostly "LETS GO PROTECT SAKURA!".

Do we even know what Yue's feelings about Touya are or is it all based on how Yukito feels? Also, the fact that Yue was in love with Clow, was that only in the manga?

Knowing CLAMP, Yukito and Yue's feelings are different, and Yue is still in love with Clow just like Yukito is in love with Touya. Yue's feelings where not downright stated in the anime, though!

Thanks dude!

I don't remember they talked, since their relationship wasn't really focused on, specially after the whole "Touya giving Yukito his magic" stuff. After that, their relationship is not really focused on much. I do think they talked before the Sakura vs Clow fight, but it was mostly "LETS GO PROTECT SAKURA!".

Okay, good. I'm not crazy then. Because I was reading old fic and was so confused by their interactions because I felt they just didn't... have much conversation before the fic started to create the base of feelings and understanding that were conveyed in them.

Knowing CLAMP, Yukito and Yue's feelings are different, and Yue is still in love with Clow just like Yukito is in love with Touya. Yue's feelings where not downright stated in the anime, though!

Okay, so it is a manga thing! I was wondering about that. I'll be tackling the manga next but was confused a bit about all the Yue/Clow I was seeing.

But seriously, I could care less about what CLAMP intends. They always make stuff needlessly complicated. @_@ I'll stick with Yue trying to get over Clow and being like, "who the fuck is this dude?" to Touya and then hopefully falling in love too. 'Cause the alternative is... awkward at best.

Does anyone know if Sorey/Mikleo from Tales of Zesteria is actually a canon pairing? I mean like acknowledged, 100% yes-we're-in-love-with-each-other-romantically, on par with Luke/Tear level canon? 'Cause I'm getting hella mixed signals on it, but it sounds like it's honestly just wishful thinking on the part of the fandom.

It's not canon but had tons and tons of subtext plus ship teasing that it could have been one. You can even imagine them being one after the ending.

Edited 2015-09-19 06:47 (UTC)

Thanks for answering! That's about what I thought, yeah. That's too bad, I was really hoping it was going to be genuinely canon. Not that I'm against tons of subtext, a lot of my favorite pairings are like that, but it would have been nice.

Has Tales ever done a same sex couple/gay character? I only remember the 'obsessive fop' stereotypes, like Dist.

Nope, which is why I was kind of hoping for it. You could certainly make arguments for certain characters (like no one on Earth is ever going to convince me that Rita isn't a dyed-in-the-wool lesbian and that she's not head over heels in love with Estelle), but nothing's ever been outright stated. It'd be nice if we could get one!

SPN: Is Chuck God? I know Kripke's said it in interviews, but it's never actually been confirmed on-show, right?

Not exactly stated outright, but heavily implied to the point that it's basically accepted as canon. I can't remember the exact context, but it's clear what that the writers want you to assume it if you watch the last episode he appears in in season 5.

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