[ SECRET POST #3192 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3192 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

02. http://i.imgur.com/4r8AerF.png

[(Anonymous)]

You were probably a kid. Most adults don't see how terrible of a person Mrs. Piggy is. Mostly because it is a kids show with creatures made out of felt.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, this. It seems to be a popular trend to get all up in arms about Miss Piggy and her abuse now, but I don't think the reason why people failed to take it seriously was because nobody cares about abusive relationships. It's because they're muppets. This is why we don't freak the fuck out about head trauma and broken bones when Gonzo's fired out of a cannon.

[(Anonymous)]

DA. I would categorize the muppets the same way I categorize certain cartoons, it's just exaggerated cartoon violence played for laughs and I wouldn't take it too seriously.

The fact that people are using the word "abuse" to describe Miss Piggy now makes me sad.

[(Anonymous)]

Soo because they're muppets its okay if they do something fucked up?

Why don't we give cartoon characters a pass for horrendous shit because they're cartoons.

"Oh we shouldn't use the word 'abuse' to describe Peter Griffin. He's a cartoon character! A drawing!"

Actions speak louder than words.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it might be because the new show is for adults, watched by adults, and has adult themes. I can see why people are suddenly realizing, "Wow. She is really abusive."

[(Anonymous)]

One of the things I like about the new muppets series is that (thus far, at least), we haven't seen Miss Piggy karate chop anyone. In the Frank Oz days, the breakup scene with Kermit would have been punctuated by a "HIIIII-YAAAAA!" and a battered frog. Seeing it instead as a sad, poignant moment where they realize that they just want different things and no one's really at fault for it made the characters both more human, imo.

Sure, we've seen Piggy tear her dressing room apart in a fit of diva-level rage, but she hasn't actually gone up and smacked anyone. (Again, I say SO FAR).

[(Anonymous)]

An excellent observation, thank you.

[khandri]

There needs to be a "like" button for comments like this.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen the new show, but I'd love for there to be a flashback montage of her past behavior used in the context of her trying to manage her anger (and also why she and Kermit have broken up now).

[iceyred]

Yep. People are acting all self-righteous over imaginary characters karate-chopping each other. It must be nice to have that much free time.

Personally, I like her karate-chop. Gave her personality.

[(Anonymous)]

It's fun to analyze stuff like that.

[(Anonymous)]

"It must be nice to have that much free time."

Why do people always say this stuff when someone criticizes something? The people "acting all self-righteous" don't necessarily have any more free time than you do - after all, you, too, are here posting your opinions on cartoon characters.

And to be clear, I don't agree with the "self-righteous" people. But I am getting tired of "you must have so much free time if your opinion is different from mine!" and while we're at it "if [thing] offends you, how do you find time to do anything besides be offended all the time?"

[sarillia]

Agreed. I'm having no trouble disagreeing with that attitude at the same time as I'm eating dinner and studying. Disagreeing with things and being offended is one of the easiest things to multitask. :p

[elaminator]

I remember having a general love for The Muppets and Miss Piggy but haven't watched the show since childhood and haven't kept up with the films. I never realized she was abusive until the internet started talking about it.

I don't think liking her would make you an awful person, though. You can acknowledge that she does things that aren't okay while still finding her interesting.

I mean, I like Hannibal Lecter but that doesn't mean I think cannibalism, murder and abuse is perfectly acceptable human behavior. (At the same time I realize that not everyone can like fictional characters that do bad things. *shrugs* Everyone's different.)

[dahli]

Haha for me it has been the opposite. I used to hate for being such a horrible.... idk Muppet? Well, I used to hate her because of that. Now, in my adult years I love her because she was such a diva!

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I kind of always thought the idea was that you weren't really supposed to like Miss Piggy, and that her main redeeming factor was that Kermie loved her.

[dahli]

Pretty much. Imo she's terrible, but that's what makes her a fun character (muppet) to watch.

[(Anonymous)]

Miss Piggy is interestinf. On one hand, she's not afraid to say what needs to be said and she's awesome. On the other...she's physically abusive.

[(Anonymous)]

This whole trend of attacking Ms Piggy is just sad proof of the fact that the MRA voice has become far too prevalent in our society. We need to realise where these ideas are coming from and we need to shit it down.

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[(Anonymous)]

0/10

Re: 0/10

[(Anonymous)]

sa - I take it back - all the other comments from you in chronological order seem to be in the same earnest vein. i hope you're young. o_O

[(Anonymous)]

I liked her precisely because she was terrible. I realised it even as a kid.

Boys have James Bond and all his ilk as escapist, fun, sociopathic role models, so why shouldn't little girls have someone female to look to who's completely selfish and yet painted as the heroine? It's freeing.

With Bond being depicted these days as the deeply damaged person he always was, it makes sense that the same is happening to Miss Piggy.

I've not seen the new Muppets yet, but by the sounds if it, acknowledging the messed up side of her character just going to make me like her more, the same way it did for Bond.

[(Anonymous)]

IAWTC, though I never really felt strongly either way about Miss Piggy.

[(Anonymous)]

Good point.