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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-03 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #3195 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3195 ⌋

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Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not 100% wrong, but putting it like this isn't the way to win followers.

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you please explain what exactly is right about the idea that male friendship is inherently toxic and anti-women

which precise aspect of that is agreeable to you

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, try talking to a man in a male only space. It's not un-toxic.77

Also, There was a woman who decided to live as a man for a year. in those male on;y spaces her findings were interesting but not unexpected, but the most telling thing is that she needed therapy afterwards. Males only spaces are proven to be actively harmful to women.

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Those male spaces might very well have been harmful and toxic.

I'm talking about the more general claim that male friendships inevitably end up being toxic.

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Where do you think male only friendships flourish? What do you think feeds those spaces? Hell, look at fraternities, the name literally means a brotherhood.

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
What the hell is a male only friendship

Like, what

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Friendships between two or more males without the presence of a woman?

I mean, its a friendship where there are no women in the group.

You know... Male only friendships?

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like you're conflating a friendship between two people with the broader idea of a social circle, and those are actually pretty different things (tho related)

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, try talking to a man in a male only space. It's not un-toxic.

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm a man, and I've had many one-on-one, heart-to-heart talks with my other male friends (as well as with my female friends), and I haven't noticed them being especially toxic - certainly, the ones with men no more than the ones with women. It's honestly really difficult for me to see how my close personal friendships with other men, who I love, are toxic, rather than being the kind of human connection that is necessary to a well-lived human existence.

I'm open to the idea that there's something I'm not seeing, but it might help if you would explain the precise source & nature of the inherent toxicity here.

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-04 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm a man

Then you will never ever understand how damaging your boys clubs are to women.

I haven't noticed

Is the battle cry of the privileged

It's honestly really difficult for me to see

Which is exactly the problem. You will never be able to see all the harm this does. Stop trying to defend somthing you can't ever understand.

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-04 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I swear, radfems make me wish I were a dude sometimes, haha. It sounds like being a Klingon.

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-04 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
and you not dudebro enough. how about join them?

Re: Male only spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-10-04 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You wanna regather your thoughts and try again? That's not even coherent, I have no idea what you're trying to say.