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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-10 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #3202 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3202 ⌋

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Re: TW: Rape

(Anonymous) 2015-10-10 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Guy wants to have sex with his gf/wife. She says no, she isn't in the mood, but he puts his dick inside her. She doesn't want to but it's her bf/husband, she isn't going to attack him to make him stop so she just deals with it. She has been raped, he doesn't even consider what he did as rape. Perhaps not even her thinks of it as rape

Happens all the time.

Re: TW: Rape

(Anonymous) 2015-10-11 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Failure to get affirmative consent doesn't make it unintentional. It's intentional rape in that case.

Re: TW: Rape

(Anonymous) 2015-10-11 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Jesus, that's still intentional rape.

Re: TW: Rape

(Anonymous) 2015-10-11 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
DA

No, it's not, because his intention was not to rape. A lot of people think that spouse = willing sex anytime, but that doesn't mean they think "Hey, I can rape someone legally!"
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Re: TW: Rape

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-10-11 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
What is intentional or not gets fuzzy here, because of ignorance. Wilful ignorance in this day and age. Someone ignored their sexual partner's "NO" and fucked them anyway? How could it get to that stage where they could ignore a "NO" and still think that wasn't rape? Fucked up ideas about marriage, women, men, sex.

Re: TW: Rape

(Anonymous) 2015-10-11 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
He intended to perform an action. That action was rape (whether or not he identified it as such). Therfore he intended to rape.

The important point about rape is not whether or not someone is trying to rape qua rape.

Re: TW: Rape

(Anonymous) 2015-10-11 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
nonsense, most rapists justify their actions, that doesn't make it unintentional rape, it just means they're prioritizing their own wants over the consent of someone else, reckless rape not unintentional rape
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Re: TW: Rape

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-10-11 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and a big part of the thing about "rape" is that although we, including men, know that rape is Bad Bad Bad, so much that *is* rape is called other things. So in the end, only Stranger Danger done by perverted evil bad other men is rape, and everything else is just, to quote a judge once, "rougher than usual handling". Still doesn't mean that men aren't being taught on a number of cultural fronts that what women want in the bedroom isn't all that important when getting your rocks off, and that these men shouldn't be held complicit for it. Decent guys who respect women can generally figure this shit out these days.