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⌈ Secret Post #3203 ⌋

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I got to admit, I have a lot of trepidation about this movie. The puppybase has been shilling it pretty bad because of the whole only-hard-SF matters stance, not to mention the hardcore libertarians have been ranting about how that is how real men[tm] need to step up and live.

I'm not sure it is going to be good enough to put up with all that gloating and bitching. Goddamn those Zombie Heinlein-ites.

I have no idea what half of that means.

After you watch it are you going to talk to those people about it? If not, how will they gloat at you?

"puppies" refers to Rabid Puppies. tl;dr it's basically a "movement" if you can call it that, of angry white guys (the sort of dudes you'd find on 4chan or reddit) who happen to be sci-fi/fantasy fans, and want it to be like the GOOD OL' DAYS. because apparently diversity isn't fair to them and they feel underrepresented. lol. long story short, they tried to hijack the awards by giving their votes to writers they felt represented them (including a batshit insane racist guy). in response, a lot of high-profile SF/F authors boycotted the awards.

they hate the idea that SF/F should be for anyone but them.

libertarians are... well, libertarians. :/

basically picture a conglomerate of every shitty misogynistic SF/F fan stereotype and the worst parts of reddit's userbase thinking this movie is about REAL MEN and REAL SCI-FI!

So...like 100 dudes circlejerking about hard sci-fi? Just...avoid them and go enjoy the movie.

Yeah, but no-homo though.

And Zombie Heinlein refers to the movement, closely associated with those guys, where only science fiction written in the style of Robert Heinlein's very early Sci-Fi works counts as "real" science fiction. It should only explore technical innovation and never have any wider social context. It should be noted that Heinlein's later works fail drastically the Heinlein Test.

AYRT
wow, i hadn't heard of that one...

so, do they think innovations just appear magically out of thin air or something?

They genuinely do not care, but they viciously condemn any SF that does not have its sole emphasis on engineering or physical technology. Some of them even reject the idea of calculations being done with anything other than a slide rule. They are both the worst kind of math nerds and technological luddites at the same time.

That's so ridiculous. I grew up on and enjoy the Heinlein Juveniles (I learned to read on them since my dad read them to me every night), but they are just one type of scifi. They are good but so are other things. to hold up one style as superior is so narrow minded and stupid.

WOW. wow. that's... well, you know, anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers exist, so I shouldn't really be surprised.

*cringes*

god damnit, can't i enjoy my hard sci-fi with these misogynist lunatics sucking the fun out of everything?

You can. Like...other than that one anon above, I have not heard ANY of that kind of shit about that movie or book. Not on Tumblr, Reddit, podcasts, or various other forums I go on.

I can only assume anon is going to the "Hardcore Sci-Fi For Men Only" subreddit.

The best way to make a puppy cry is to enjoy stuff anyway, and possibly by Leckie's latest since it just went out last week.

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