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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-24 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3216 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3216 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
(The Blacklist)


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03.
[The Sum Of Us/Russell Crowe]


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04.
[Dan and Phil]


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[Tokyo Ghoul:re]


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[dick grayson]


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[Scandinavia and the World]


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[Doctor Who]


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[One Piece]


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[Lost Dimension]


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[Sleepy Hollow]










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(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
By ostensibly het, do you mean just "very much seeming straight without any interaction or behavior that could possibly be interpreted in a queer way"? Or just a character that has opposite sex relations but there's nothing "canon" to suggest that it's impossible they might be bi?

Because there are characters that I feel like can be read bisexual (or gay) but aren't necessarily canon either way (re: Tulio and Miguel from El Dorado). I don't consider anyone canon-straight until the narrative makes it that way.

But my first thought would be Cloud Strife, I'd make him canon bisexual, even though I do think he is bisexual in the extant game (with dates with Barret and such).

Or wait, maybe a couple het-only romance options in Dragon Age, I'd make bisexual, because I'd rather all romance options be bisexual. So Alistair, Morrigan and Cassandra at least...

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
In theory "very much seeming straight without any interaction or behavior that could possibly be interpreted in a queer way" could still mean they're bi off camera so I don't know what the difference is between the two categories you listed.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, but since she said "ostensibly straight" I'm not sure how one would possibly get more ostensible than that. In my mind, a character could even claim to be straight in canon and still not necessarily be straight, since lots of bi or somewhat bi people consider themselves straight. I guess Word of God, but Word of God rarely has to comment on characters' sexuality in the first place and at any rate, I don't personally count Word of God into a narrative's canon.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say ostensibly straight would mean canonic heterosexual attraction is shown, but homosexual attraction is not shown. Or Word of God says straight.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
But that was my first category. Heterosexual interactions, no interactions that can be interpreted as homosexual.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"a character that has opposite sex relations but there's nothing "canon" to suggest that it's impossible they might be bi"

This also fits the same description though.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe I didn't word myself right. As opposed to the first category which is stricter, a character that could reasonably be bisexual, with more examples of interactions with same-sex people that could be interpreted as romantic/sexual, but there's no canon clarification about sexual orientation either way. A character that someone could go "s/he's bi/gay" and it wouldn't be surprising or disjointed at all. As opposed to a character who never seems to have any interactions that could remotely be interpreted that way, and if who they were confirmed as being bi, there'd be no real canon evidence of the character expressing that orientation even mildly.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Still no distinction for me. But it may be that my threshold for being surprised is much higher than yours. If there's nothing in the canon that explicitly says they are not queer, I assume queer is a possibility because nothing says a queer character ever has to explicitly express their queerness.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
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I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if they turned out not to be later, but both types would be ostensibly straight to me.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-10-25 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
And Cullen, which I have heard around a few times had some lines voiced for a gay option but it didn't get implemented.