[ SECRET POST #3216 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3216 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
(The Blacklist)


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03.
[The Sum Of Us/Russell Crowe]


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04.
[Dan and Phil]


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05.
[Tokyo Ghoul:re]


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06.
[dick grayson]


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07.
[Scandinavia and the World]


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08.
[Doctor Who]


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09.
[One Piece]


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10.
[Lost Dimension]


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11.
[Sleepy Hollow]










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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

A friend asked me this and I wanted to know what you all thought.

If you could make one ostensibly cis het fictional character canonically some form of LGBT in a way that couldn't be handwaved or retconned...

who, to which, and why?

[dreemyweird]

All the main characters in The Picture of Dorian Gray would be canonically gay/bi. I think Wilde deserves that.

Sherlock Holmes would be aro-ace. No more stupid Holmes/Irene Adler plotlines!

[kitelovesyou]

Yes to both!

[dahli]

+1!!

[herpymcderp]

All of the male leads from Call of Duty or Gears of War or similar, just for the outpouring of salt.

[(Anonymous)]

By ostensibly het, do you mean just "very much seeming straight without any interaction or behavior that could possibly be interpreted in a queer way"? Or just a character that has opposite sex relations but there's nothing "canon" to suggest that it's impossible they might be bi?

Because there are characters that I feel like can be read bisexual (or gay) but aren't necessarily canon either way (re: Tulio and Miguel from El Dorado). I don't consider anyone canon-straight until the narrative makes it that way.

But my first thought would be Cloud Strife, I'd make him canon bisexual, even though I do think he is bisexual in the extant game (with dates with Barret and such).

Or wait, maybe a couple het-only romance options in Dragon Age, I'd make bisexual, because I'd rather all romance options be bisexual. So Alistair, Morrigan and Cassandra at least...

[(Anonymous)]

peggy

and

angie

[(Anonymous)]

Steve Rogers

It's not even really for shipping reasons for me (I don't hardcore ship Steve with anyone in particular) but, to me, he's a great choice precisely because he represents the American ideal (what it should be, not what it is, sadly). And the American ideal being not-cis or not-het would send one hell of a message

[(Anonymous)]

Batman, because it'd be hilarious to watch the inevitable fandom wanksplosion that would follow.

_{And I've headcanoned him as having a crush on Superman for years anyway.}

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know how "het" these ones necessarily are, but (already obviously gay in my mind) characters I'd make canon gay:

-Light Yagami, Death Note
-Quatre Winner, Gundam Wing
-Elsa, Frozen
-Ike, Fire Emblem (bi in his case)

[(Anonymous)]

Han Solo

If he were gay or trans...OMG the wank this would generate

ESPECIALLY if it was Harrison Ford's idea and he was 100% supportive

OMG I LOVE IT

[(Anonymous)]

Bobby in SPN. Just as a general "up yours" to the people who still want the main guys be gay.

[(Anonymous)]

I've been on a Disney kick lately, and I'd make Gaston gay. He'd still be the bad guy, but he'd be more interesting -- it would make sense for him to be an exaggeratedly masculine dickwad who actually hates himself deep down and overcompensates to hide something that would have made him an outcast and possibly a criminal in his era. It isn't necessarily not possible in canon, but...

[dani_phantasma]

Would probably never really happen because Butch Hartman, but

Valerie and Danielle (when Dani is older of course). But it would make perfect sense that someone cloned from a person who is attracted to women to be attracted to women too. Well depending on how cloning is supposed to work, I guess. It's a believable theory. -shrug-

[fishnchips]

Any main character in the new Star Wars movie (that isn't a droid or something). Star Wars is so straight, it's ridiculous.

[(Anonymous)]

I would like BBC's Sherlock (just that iteration, not ACD's Holmes) to be established as gay. It's not going to happen, I know that, but it's alway been 100% my headcanon for him, and it always will be.

And I might like for James Bond to be bisexual. Ever since his line to Silva ("Who says it's my first time?") it's been in my head as possibly cool bit of characterization. Not because I ship Bond with Q (though I could easily be persuaded to do so), but because I just think it would be kinda great to have this long standing pillar of idolized masculinity turn out to enjoy sex with men as well as women. Then again, I'm not sure I like what that might be seen to imply about how Bond treats women - i.e. If Bond is Bi, then why does he only treat women like they're sexually disposable and not men?

Jon Snow

[(Anonymous)]

Jon Snow has to be gay. I listened to the audiobook for DwD (? I think) while half asleep the other day and I was like "Oh, right, he totally has to be gay. why didn't I realize it earlier!" ... it took me a day or so to remember Ygritte.
Wouldn't it be great if he realized he was at least bi or even preferred men in the end? Giving the finger to all the fans who dreamt up some Jon/Dany ice and fire endgame?

[(Anonymous)]

For anime: Ichigo Kurosaki from Bleach. Shiro and Kuro from K. Gaara and Madara from Naruto. Undertaker from Kuroshitsuji.

For live action: Daryl from The Walking Dead.

[(Anonymous)]

Katniss from THG because I didn't buy her feelings for Peeta and Gale and felt more during her short interaction with Johanna than when she talked to either boy.

[dratinis]

I wouldn't want any already-established hetero character to be queer, so much as I want more queer characters in media. I don't know, for some reason this question makes me a bit uncomfortable? Not quite sure why.

[(Anonymous)]

Legolas and Gimli.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd make Fox Mulder at least bi-curious.

[philstar22]

Steve Rogers would be bi.

John Sheridan and Jeffrey Sinclair would also be bi (mostly for triad purposes).

O'Brian and Bashir would both be bi.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I... generally wouldn't? Mostly because I don't think in terms of "ostensibly" xyz gender. If it isn't confirmed by word of god or by the narrative, it's up in the air and open to pretty much anything.

Well, there is one exception. In Knights of the Old Republic II, I would probably make Visas Marr (and Atton Rand) the bi romance routes. Mostly because A) it's Bioware, and B) I want my female Exile to be able to date Visas, dammit. She's the best.

Character-wise, I'm pretty sure it makes sense - Visas' personality is very open to single-target sexuality, and Atton's the other character who gets *really* close to the Exile either way.

On the other hand: I don't like how so many people seem to only want to make xyz character LGBT+ because it would make other people angry, or as some kind of political figurehead. Isn't that just using LGBT+ people as ammunition, and basically just tokenism? I'm sorry, but that sounds immature at best and outright exploitative at worst.

[(Anonymous)]

This is a weird thought experiment for me because I pretty much just headcanon everyone as bi, haha. But I suppose if I really had to nail down one specific character that I'd want explicitly queered up, I waaaaannnnt...hm, bisexual Zelos Wilder? (I'm kind of on a Tales of kick lately, so he's the first one I thought of.) 'Cause really, he was all the hell about Lloyd, as much as he was any of the ladies.