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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-24 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3216 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3216 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(The Blacklist)


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[The Sum Of Us/Russell Crowe]


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[Dan and Phil]


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[Tokyo Ghoul:re]


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[dick grayson]


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[Scandinavia and the World]


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[Doctor Who]


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[One Piece]


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[Lost Dimension]


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[Sleepy Hollow]










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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-10-24 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's literally a bunch of Japanese dudes wanting to buck gender roles.

Nothing wrong with it.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Except that they're equating the problems in their life to women, who they shun and build their lives without, while embracing the actual harmful elements of their lives, i.e. the patriarchy. It's a cult of man nothing more or less.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh stop. What are you even talking about? Do you even know what we're discussing?

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, the Grasseatrs, AKA the Japanese precursors to those MGTOW scumbags.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
rad!fem! Or Racist!Anon? You're totally Racist!Anon! Oh honey, I knew you never actually left us!

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. MGTOW are gender terrorists, the grass eaters are just kinda protesters.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
What the fuck is mgtow?
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Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

[personal profile] ibbity 2015-10-24 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
...no? It's more of a mindset that they don't have the energy to add a relationship (which in Japan demands that each partner fulfill a certain role perfectly and without stepping over the bounds of that role---stressful!) to their already horrifyingly overworked and overstressed lives. It isn't "a cult of man," it's a reaction to the insane demands that Japanese work culture puts on its participants.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Wah, japanses men have it so haaaard!

That's what you sound like, you know.
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Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

[personal profile] ibbity 2015-10-24 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
They do, though? And so do Japanese women. Japanese society is pretty rough on EVERYONE involved in it.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"People that aren't like me have problems???? That's ridiculous and you're stupid for suggesting it. Only people like me have legit problems!"

That's what you sound like, you know.
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Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-10-24 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You remind me of the person who claimed I was racist because I brought up institutional xenophobia in the Japanese gaming industry.

Meaning: You really don't know a whole hell of a lot about Japan, do you?

Uh...

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Japanese everybody have it hard.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-10-25 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
YMMV. A lot of GE's do seek "Meat Eater" girlfriends, but want them to enjoy the more dominant and ambitious role in the relationship. I think it's kind of adorable, really. :)

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-10-25 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Confirmed for you not having any actual idea what you're talking about.

Most Grass-eaters do have girlfriends or are interested in having them. They affectionately say that what they seek is a "Meat Eater" girlfriend to care for the financial situation and ambition so they can care for the home.

It really is nothing but a gender role reversal, since Japan has historically been stuck somewhere in the 50's in that regard for a lot the recent past. The youth are simply getting sick of it.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
so how come I'm hearing so much hand clutching and pear wringing about them atm?
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Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

[personal profile] ibbity 2015-10-24 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Because the Japanese birth rate is so low that the country is in danger of going into a decline in a few generations if they don't start having more kids, not to mention the trouble that comes when you have too many old people in need of assistance and not enough young people to help them. Therefore, people who unilaterally declare that they aren't going to participate in anything that could lead to having more kids are a worrying thing to the Japanese government and society.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
society kinda depends on men being men. a total rejection of the masculine leaves a void in society that is not easy to fill.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG you need some Gloria Steinem in your head right fucking now.
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Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-10-24 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You're under the impression that men = masculine? How quaint!

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Japan does not handle social change well. Western culture went through the same collective freakout as this back in the 1990s with the new man movement. Only we did it a bit less so because back then we were all too high on peace and relief after the end of the Cold War, and were also experiencing the Clinton economic boom, to freak out as much as Japan is.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
All true, but this is not good change. This isn't something that should be supported, this is backwards and a little misogynistic. Men who choose to avoid forming any attachments to women like this is just another arm of social oppression to women. I don't like how you seem to be taking the side that the grass eaters are the good guys and it's just old farts who are too unprogressive to let change happen. Some change shouldn't be allowed, some change is bad.

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Racist!Anon, hi. :)

I am lol-ing out loud by "men who aren't interested in having girlfriends are actually oppressing women", btw

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-10-25 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
I have to assume MRAs just discovered them and are angry that they're not manly enough?

Although really, this is a thing that has been happening since like 2007, so...

Oh, and also Japanese olds being olds want more babbies fromed (the same justification used for making it insanely difficult for women to obtain oral contraceptives), and the damn youth just isn't making it happen! Not that I blame them.
Edited 2015-10-25 04:36 (UTC)

Re: Can someone explain to me the deal with the Grass-Eater movement?

(Anonymous) 2015-10-25 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much.