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Hating them doesn't require you to hate yourself for your sex. Hating yourself for something you can't control is pretty damn unhealthy.

Take this from someone who's trying to climb out of the pit of pointless self loathing and shake off the damage it's done to my mind.

No, but if you don't hate them in spite of what assholes they are, and the reason you don't hate them is because you feel some comfort and support from them then you're a selfish asshole. If you hate yourself and the thing that makes you hate yourself less is something as abhorant as the MRA, you have to know that you deserve to hate yourself. I can hate them, I can reject the comfort and support, I can choose that and I have to choose that but by doing that I have nothing else telling me it's ok to be me. You see the catch 22 I'm in here? Find comfort in who I am in a group who prove I don't deserve to be comforted or supported, or be a better person and reject the on;y group that seems to care about my shitty little issues.

They don't give you support. They don't care about your issues. They can't help you. I don't think anyone outside of feminism can give you want you need, and feminism isn't there to be your crutch.

So what are you going to do now?

The answer is to find a different way not to hate yourself.

I don't know why you hate yourself, or what your issues are, but I gotta think there's someplace else to stop hating yourself.

Just because a group that claims to support your interests is actually terrible doesn't mean you as a person don't deserve to be comforted or supported. Just because you happen to be male and they happen to be male doesn't have to mean they're the only people who will care about things that effect you.

There have been numerous horrible groups I've seen that have claimed to support the problems of people like myself. I reject them because they do harm, but that doesn't mean I have to decide that I don't deserve comfort or support and I have to hate myself.

I am not them, I share one 'group' or 'demographic' with them. You are not the MRM.

Then stop supporting the MRA? It's not rocket science.

There are more important things than your comfort. When men start to get this half this shit will disappear.

But dude's mental healthy and well-being ultimately is important, setting aside gender issues. Dude is a human being. That shouldn't stop feminists from feministing, and it shouldn't justify supporting the MRA movement - but it does matter, and I don't think it can be written off as 'discomfort'. Mental suffering is real.

Telling people that is not helpful either, fuck off.

Your response is just adding more harmful attitudes that it has to be "us vs. them" or that if we're helping one group with something we can't help another group with something".

When people start understanding- yes people. Not men people like you even- start getting that it doesn't have to be "us vs them" or "one or the other" that's when this shit will disappear.

Fuck. Off.

You are not helping.

Also self loathing is not "discomfort". Self loathing is a very harmful and very painful thing that nobody should have to deal with regardless of sex or gender or anything else.

I wouldn't want anyone suffering from this to be told that their problem is just "not important right now".

I'm sorry, I just don't have any sympathy for you. You have the entire world telling you it's ok to be you, that it's ok to enjoy the privileges of being a male, If that's not enough, if you need feminism or the mrm to also kowtow to your masculinity, well, I just cant empathise with that.

Yyyyyeah, try not dictating to other people what their experience of the world is. You are painfully wrong and being an asshole about it.

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