[ SECRET POST #3227 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3227 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Mary McDonnell, Battlestar Galactica, Major Crimes]


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[Deadly Premonition]


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[The Walking Dead, Glenn Rhee]


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[Bill Skarsgård]


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08. http://i.imgur.com/LAq54d4.jpg
[link for random penis]









Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Embarrassing thoughts/confessions

[feotakahari]

I've said this before on the Internet, but I probably couldn't say it in real life.

I don't have a framework within which I could meaningfully criticize otherkin. I have no way I personally could say they're less valid than transsexuals. (Sure, you can talk about brain structures, but that tends to turn into Mismeasure of Man bullshit: https://xkcd.com/1588/) I guess the way I'd say it is that it can hurt to not know who or what you are, and whatever helps, helps.

Re: Embarrassing thoughts/confessions

[(Anonymous)]

My go-to idea here is that trans* stuff is grounded in a cogent and detailed understanding of the concepts of identity, body, gender, and sexuality in a way that I don't think otherkin stuff comes close to. There is a compelling logic to the trans* arguments that does not exist in regards to otherkin stuff.

Re: Embarrassing thoughts/confessions

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhh I feel like as soon as you start saying that otherkin are as legitimate as transgender people, then you open the door for transracial crap and other things.

Re: Embarrassing thoughts/confessions

[feotakahari]

If you accept race as a thing (which I don't), then "transracial" would have to be a thing that exists. A system that enforces "race" as a thing people have and doesn't allow them to escape the rules and expectations of one random race would be dangerous.

Re: Embarrassing thoughts/confessions

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think your model of race, and what accepting race as a construct entails, is accurate / true / useful.

Re: Embarrassing thoughts/confessions

[feotakahari]

I dunno. I've encountered people who take comfort in blackness, who frame it as something that makes them strong, and I assume other people do the same for other races. But when I think about social systems, my concern is for the people they hurt, not the people they benefit.

Re: Embarrassing thoughts/confessions

[(Anonymous)]

People are hurt by racism, not by being black. And to the extent that it's racism that's harmful, racism is a system that assigns race externally anyway.

Re: Embarrassing thoughts/confessions

[feotakahari]

I'm not sure where you're coming from. To me, bigotry is what happens when you say "Group X has Y trait" and person A in group X does not have Y trait. The nature of the pain differs, but it will result whether Y is good or bad, and whether the person making the statement is a member of group X or not. (If outsiders were the only source of bigotry, we wouldn't have insults like "oreo" or "banana.")

You could say this is straying from otherkin, but I don't think it is. Under most circumstances, I don't see it as my job to tell people "you have to be black," or "you have to be human." There are points when you can say they're wrong (Ted Haggard is not heterosexual), but I think the degree to which that argument should be made is proportional to how much harm they're actually doing.