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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-05 07:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3228 ]


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Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
That you aren't allowed to be "spiritual but not religious". Like spirituality is 100% dependent on believing in a god or some dogmatic rules written in the bronze age.
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Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-11-06 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Conversely I find the immediate rejection of any form of doctrine a bit annoying. Doctrine is something an individual has to assess for themselves and decide whether they agree or not, not something to be peer-pressured into rejecting.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
I guess it depends what you mean by doctrine? If you mean religious texts that are anything more than philosophy (so are about actual mythology/supernatural events/etc) I'm not interested. I respect people who are interested in it, but I just don't see the need for me personally.
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Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-11-06 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
By doctrine, I mean the set of "rules" a given denomination of a religion has chosen. Sure, some of those are the mythology, but some are more philosophical. I think it's short-sighted to reject them just because they're "The Rules" without examining them first to determine which they are, and if the philosophical ones have relevance.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, yes. That's how I'd describe myself if absolutely necessary, and it's because it's true. There's some spiritual beliefs I either believe in or, at the very least, support in a, "I'd like that to be true, and hope it is true" sort of way.

But I don't go to church, I don't follow a set religious doctrine/dogma, and my spiritual beliefs are minimal and shaky at best, so I hesitate to call myself religious as a result, because I don't feel like I really fit that definition.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
For me, I'm basically an atheist. I don't literally believe in anything. But spiritually, I'm earth-centered and am really drawn to ideas about everything being connected in the universe. Actually, I feel really spiritual about a lot of scientific ideas, like everything comes from stardust, energy is never created or destroyed, it just changes forms, etc. It makes me feel really fascinated and peaceful. So I'm not religious, but I am spiritual, but apparently that makes me sound like a hipster yuppie or something.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's not an argument I've heard personally, since there are quite a few people who'd identify themselves as "spiritual, but not religious". I think it's fine if people do that, but I think it's a terribly wishy-washy way of saying "I want to believe but organized religion is such bullshit".

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
That's basically the argument I'm disagreeing with.

Why is it wishy-washy? Sometimes certain religious ideas resonate with people, but they don't actually like the religion behind those ideas. I don't think spirituality actually has to be about "belief", at least not some kind of literal belief in a god.