[ SECRET POST #3228 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3228 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

[philstar22]

I just hate "freedom of speech" arguments in general that aren't about government actions. People don't understand what freedom of speech really means. The government can't, generally, with some exceptions, stop you from saying things. Private entities certainly can. And individual people can too.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

[sarillia]

To be fair, some people believe in a universal right to freedom of speech that should ethically be guaranteed to everyone. Which is a stance others can disagree with but it seems pretty disingenuous when people refuse to acknowledge that they do in fact know what the legal right to free speech is and isn't and that's just not what they're talking about.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

[philstar22]

Okay, maybe. Most of the time I hear that phrase thrown about by people who really don't know what it means, though.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

[(Anonymous)]

I talked about this more above, but I don't agree. The First Amendment is a law that protects free speech from one source of potential interference. But I don't think that's the whole of freedom of speech in a democratic republic - I don't think it can't be.

I don't believe in a universal freedom to say anything at any time. But I think that public social pressure can be a means of shutting views out of the public discourse in the same way that governmental action is, and it's exceptionally difficult to determine precisely what views should be shut out of public discourse and how you determine the standards for that.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

[philstar22]

I actually don't disagree with you, although I think that we should maybe coin another term for that type of restricting of speech since "freedom of Speech" is generally the term for the type talked about in the Constitution which is just about government action. But people really do talk about legal freedom of speech as if it applies to private speech and threaten suing people when people criticize their arguments. And that is a complete misunderstanding of the law.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

[(Anonymous)]

Oh sure you're right enough there. I just think that the converse is also true & people use the legal argument in such a way as to dismiss the political one.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

[philstar22]

Good point. I guess just as an almost lawyer I tend to be more sensitive to the former.