[ SECRET POST #3245 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3245 ⌋

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Comments

[tabaqui]

To me - my opinion here - the irritation i feel at what seems a completely ridiculous and fixable situation makes the move unfun. (Well, that and the over-the-top violence.)

I just wish writers would find intelligent, interesting and *plausible* ways to make a plot point happen. Like slasher/horror movies, when people do incredibly stupid things and die. Or hell, Walking Dead!!

Why can't they find ways for the plot to move forward in *smart* ways, instead of dumbing down characters and making hand-wavey things happen to do that, instead? I think it would make for much more interesting stories all together.

And, to placate whatever anon is so exercised - I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS STUPID FOR WATCHING OR ENJOYING HOME FUCKING ALONE. I just personally think the movies are stupid and a bit gross and like other anon said, kid-slasher movies, and i do *not* like them.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the problem is that you keep doing things like implying that the way the plot works is unintelligent, and saying that it's the result of writers being unwilling to use their brains, and not being smart, and calling them stupid. When you're using language like that, it's hard not to read it as a value judgment. And if it's a value judgment, it's hard not to take that and extend it to the viewers who enjoy it and don't agree that its stupid.

[tabaqui]

Well, yes, it *is* a judgement. On the writers. I judge them very harshly, because they have all kinds of opportunities to do other things, but they don't.

I don't judge people watching, as i said, because hey - I like some pretty stupid things, and will enjoy stuff that is *otherwise* enjoyable.

But i will harshly judge the writers of even my *very favorite* stuff when they do that kind of stupid thing, and have done so vocally and publicly in the past, and will again. Hell - ask me about stupid plot crap in Supernatural, i'll tell you things that irritated the piss out of me, and made me want to find the writers and smack them with a box of #2 Ticonderoga pencils.

There's enough stuff in SPN that i *like* to make those missteps something i can overlook. In something like HA, there really is *not*. Ditto for most slasher movies (i don't watch them), torture porn stuff, etc. Walking Dead is getting on my last nerve, but i still like Maggie and Daryl and Michonne and Carl enough to want to know what happens to them.

If i think the writers of a movie or tv show are making stupid plot decisions, well, i shall say 'they are making stupid plot decisions' or 'they are being stupid'.

But i don't believe that i have ever said 'and people who like these movies/tv shows are stupid for watching and are stupid'.

[(Anonymous)]

Just because you dislike a trope or genre doesn't mean it's stupid writing. However your insistence that stuff you don't like is therefore unintelligent and stupid? That's unintelligent and stupid, and we all recognise you're being this.

[tabaqui]

And, i never said a trope *or* genre was stupid, i said certain writer's choices were stupid.

But thanks for generalizing for me, and for taking it all so personally. Have a nice night.

Signing off.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. It's almost like none of us here like having you be so aggressive over your dislike.

[kaijinscendre]

I think you give more credit to the human race than you should. Humans can be very stupid. And when they are panicked or overly stressed, even more so. Most people in a zombie apocalypse are not going to die because of some smart way. They are going to die because they tripped while running, or ran out of food, or trapped themselves in a building.

[tabaqui]

Well, maybe. But like on WD, they've survived *all this stuff*, done all these things, are like - practically level 1 million zombie killers and they still have them do *really stupid things* for plot. Just...arrgh!

After several years of surviving, you'd think they could *eliminate* the stupid stuff. Tripping while running is an accident you can't really foresee, but having a loud argument when you *know* the zombies can hear you, and then acting all surprised when ...they hear you? Meh.

[kaijinscendre]

People fuck up doing normal stuff all the time. Sometimes you get less sleep and woops car crash! You can only be prepared so much. Stupid mistakes happen.

[otakugal15]

Thank you. The amount of times I have been in a rush to get somewhere/work and I ended up leaving my wallet, ir my work badge, or my wirk shoes, or forgot to take my pills, etc etc when on a normal basis, I'm usually good about doing those things?

So, even if it's a bit of a stretch, having a HUGE damily gathering and said gathering ending up in a rush, I can see things getting behind, yes, even a kid. And yes, people do end up realizing they left said thing only AFTER getting on the buss or plane and have a "FUCK!!" moment.

It happens, to both dumb and smart people a like.

[kaijinscendre]

It a completely normal thing that happens! Sadly, it can sometimes have devastating effects (from a death to a child to burning down your whole house).

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah but just because you don't like or enjoy them, does not make the writers work stupid or unintelligent or any more of the words you've been throwing about. Ppl are irritated because you're being judgemental and elitist because you don't enjoy a genre.

Fine, it doesn't appeal to you. You don't get that kind of material and it's fine you don't understand that. But shitting on it as unintelligent and shitty because YOU find it unfunny isn't the right way to express you distaste.

Get over it

[tabaqui]

Me saying the writing/writers are being stupid/writing stupid plots *does not reflect* on the people who *enjoy* various shows, just on my opinion of the writers.

Once again - I have never said *the fans* are stupid, and have clearly stated i find the writers of *things i enjoy* to be stupid/writing stupid things sometimes, too. It is not my fault that you seem to be over-identifying with the writers.

Get over it, as you so succinctly said.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT was talking about the writers, though, not the fans.

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

I didn't even mention the fans. Maybe your problem here is you're making two sides of an argument up but not taking in what anyone else is saying.

Like. My point went right over your head and you made it about the fans. That I didn't even talk about.