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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-26 06:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #3249 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3249 ⌋

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[personal profile] vethica 2015-11-26 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if it helps at all, you've intrigued me, OP. I'm going to give these books a shot.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
+1

I'm ashamed to say that I have totally judged Marjorie M. Liu's books by their covers, despite the fact that she's one of my favorite comics writers. Well, no longer; I'm checking her out the next time I go to the library.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit you will not be disappointed. My love affair with her stuff started years ago, way before I even knew she wrote comics. I was hard up for a book to read and I was in Borders (RIP), I picked up her "Eye of the Tiger" book and was like "I NEED MORE". Her characters intrigued me from the moment I realized that the heroine of that story had her own powers and she wasn't just a complete damsel in distress. That's one of the things I enjoy about Liu's books. She has powerful female characters that don't feel like stereotypes.

If you're not big on romance, read her Hunter Kiss series first. The romance takes a backseat to awesome worldbuilding.

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+1

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
You've got me interested too! I'm putting her on my to-read list!
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2015-11-27 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too!

(Anonymous) 2015-11-30 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'll check her out too. I would never have considered her work because of the cheesy covers. I love beefcake but romance covers just scream "cheap crap" to me. Whether or not I like her work, OP, you shouldn't hold back your recommendations. Tell people what she's doing and those with open minds will try her out.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
See this is just one of the reasons I love my Kindle. I would be embarrassed to be seen reading something with a cover like that but no one knows what I read on my kindle. I am going to check out Hunter's Kiss because it sounds good. It will be our secret XD

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 09:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! :D I hope at least a few of the people checking her stuff out because of this secret find a new author they enjoy!
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[personal profile] silverr 2015-11-27 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
fwiw I'e added this author to my list.
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[personal profile] shahrizai 2015-11-27 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
*every* paranormal romance has a strong female character. This character is always a woman with a tragic past who becomes physically strong out of the need to avoid feeling helpless like they did in their past, and they always hunt down the evil members of the paranormal race. I'm so sick of that trope and would love to see more paranormal romances that subvert it. The best I've found is Jessamy in Nalini Singh's Guild Hunter series. Speaking of, Elena is the most extreme example of the trope and I can't fucking stand her. I love the supernatural aspects of paranormal romance, I just can't stand the modern day settings and heroines!

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Elena is my least favorite of all of Kelley Armstrong's characters. I hate that all her new Otherworld novellas are just super special Elena and her super special children. That she made them both transform at nine, and that Kate is super special and beautiful but doesn't dress up her like mother, so all the other girls are jealous of her is really boring.

Her newest protag is a little better, but her waffling on the half-hobgoblin guy or the dark forest fae guy and the obvious misunderstandings between them is driving me crazy. I just hope she doesn't end it with an open/polyamorous solution, because that would have made five books of waffling unbearably pointless.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what series you two are talking about (help a guy out?) but holy shit that sounds awful. Precocious children in books are one of my hugest pet peeves.

The waffling shit is why I gave up Janet Evanovich's "One For The Money" (etc) series. By the 8th novel of seeing Stephanie go back and forth between two equally irritating male characters and I was like "that's it". I'd been rooting for Ranger at first but after awhile both he and Joe just irritated me every time they were on the page, and Stephanie started out refreshing as hell and ended up a horrible stereotype.

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(Anonymous) 2015-11-28 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
My annoyance with Elena is only trumped by my loathing for Clayton.

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(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
....That isn't what Maxine Kiss is all about though. She's literally just following in her mother's footsteps. She doesn't angst about her fucked up past and tries to live as normal a life as one can while being harangued by the zombie queen and dealing with being the one thing standing between a species that will create a war that will destroy the earth.

She's bad-ass without trying to justify it, and she's also got enough weaknesses that she's realistic.

The paranormal races in Liu's books also aren't black and white. Even the "zombies" have been shown to have something approaching redemption. The other species even moreso despite their fearsome appearances and their bloodlust that seems inexcusable from a human perspective, Liu gives life to it all.

I'm curious if you've actually read these books because this complaint seems so far from what Liu is about.

Also, the genre of romance ("shifter romance") that Liu's Dirk and Steele series is under actually has the opposite problem with regards to heroines. The women are all damsels in distress with no real personality just waiting for their big strong bear/wolf/whatever shifter to come save them. I'm sorry but Liu really won me over with the women in her books. Rikki comes to mind, a torture survivor with permanent, ugly scars on her body that aren't magically healed or excused, nor are they aesthetic scars that make her look like a lady pirate, she's got words like "WHORE" etched into her skin. I don't know too many romance novel writers who would tackle a character like that.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
They were talking about the books like The Otherworld Series, Anita Blake, Sookie Stackhouse, etc.
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[personal profile] popkin16 2015-11-27 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
I admit, I'm intrigued. I used to read a lot of paranormal romance novels and got tired of "the same old thing". I'm going to give this author a try XD

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
If you want romance, go for Dirk & Steele. If you want more paranormal worldbuilding and the romance to take a backseat, check out the Hunter Kiss series.

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[personal profile] lentils 2015-11-27 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I love her comics so much! I need to check out her fiction. Mostly I haven't because I'm lazy and new series, even though I like them generally, intimidate me.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
ohhhh, this is the writer for that comic from last week with the beefcake on a leash!
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[personal profile] badfalcon 2015-11-27 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Well that's my interest piqued, will definitely see if my local library has anything by her. Thank you for the rec! :)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay Leverage icon, you have good taste. You are more than welcome for the rec. Hopefully you enjoy what she has to offer! If you're in the mood for more overt romance, go with the Dirk And Steele series (first book in the series is "Eye of the Tiger"), and if you're in the mood for more paranormal stuff with a twist (I love the world building in this series) go for the Hunter Kiss series (first book is "The Iron Hunt").

(Anonymous) 2015-11-28 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the Dirk and Steele series. Kudos to you for reccing them to a wider audience!
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[personal profile] dwell_ondreams 2015-11-29 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
You're so passionate about it & they sound interesting. I'll give the author a shot. :)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-01 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
My library had an ebook of the Tiger one (first in Dirk & Steele series), so I downloaded it and read it real quick this past weekend... was not impressed. :( Flat characters who all revolve around the heroine, cliche romance, jumbled plot that slowed to a crawl for the middle third, deus ex machina resolution of both antagonists (or at least, not much effort or engagement on the part of the characters to fix stuff)...

So I got The Iron Hunt which has been going better so far. Short choppy sentences. All over the place. Every chapter, written like this through the heroine's POV. Not sure how I feel about it.

I tried anon. Thanks for the rec anyway!