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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-26 06:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #3249 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3249 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this going to be another discussion where people don't understand racial coding.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care how coded (stereotyped) something is. Still pink.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
So people shouldn't paint themselves pink when the want to cosplay Garnet? Then I suppose they shouldn't paint themselves purple when they want to cosplay Amethyst either?

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
If a black cosplayer wants to leave their skin tone when cosplaying Garnet, I wouldn't argue with them. But she is actually sort of light burgundy.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not in this fandom, but I'm confused, are you trying to tell me that a pink alien (?) is black?
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-11-27 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
She has a black voice actress and a giant afro. It's like how Goliath on Gargoyles was sometimes interpreted as black, despite being whatever ethnicity gargoyles are.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Gargoyles are gargoyles. They don't have ethnicity.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Also, Goliath was lavender. People incisting on putting human race baggage on anthopormophic characters like gargoyles and gems is stupid and short sighted. Try and broaden your thinking if you fall into this deplorable habit.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-11-27 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Tell that to the showrunners. In the episode where the gargoyles became human, Goliath was drawn with noticeably darker skin than the others and features resembling his voice actor.
Edited 2015-11-27 00:49 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
No, he wasn't. He was a white guy with brown hair. A brown mullet, to be specific. I never knew that Keith David was black until I saw him interviewed but he was the perfect choice for Goliath. His skin color has nothing to do with it.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
It's you that needs to broaden your thinking. Insisting that non-human characters like these aren't created with real human racial features in mind isn't open-minded, it's juvenile and embarrassing. And I'm not talking embarrassing because ~social justice~, I'm talking about art design, social sciences, anthropology. This is basic stuff you learn if you take classes in these subjects.

People who argue like you do also make the mistake of always assuming that putting racial coding on a character is a negative thing, and if you say they were created to look like a certain race we're saying their creator was racist. And that's pretty racist thinking, actually. As long as the characters in whole are not racist stereotypes, there's nothing bad about coding them physically.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Uh huh. What an interesting point of view you have there, Sparky.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
actually they r scottish

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, and? Katara was voiced by a white woman, does that mean she's white?

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
So was Korra!
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-11-27 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
I never watched that show, but my impression was that it didn't do the "match the character's appearance to their voice actor's appearance" thing. Gargoyles did it at times. I'm not sure about Steven Universe. (To be clear, I don't consider Garnet a black character, but I wouldn't argue with someone who did. Black and queer isn't a common combination on TV, and folks take what representation they get.)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
It's really too bad that there's so much drama surrounding Garnet cosplays, because she reperesents things other than color that means something to many people, like never giving up on your love even when society/your culture wants to tear you apart and being strong and confident in your relationship even when others say it's wrong.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
SA
Sorry, this should have been a reply to the OP, not you.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-28 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't every conversation like that on F!S these days?