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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-03 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #3256 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3256 ⌋

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Re: controversial/confrontational/hostile/bitter opinions

(Anonymous) 2015-12-04 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Completely agree. And it seems to me, frankly, that what really has happened is that the wealthy have captured the wealth produced by automation.
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Re: controversial/confrontational/hostile/bitter opinions

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-12-04 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Seems that way, yes.

And then there's the absurd result that there's less jobs, but people are still expected to do the same work, so a bunch of people just end up jobless.
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Re: controversial/confrontational/hostile/bitter opinions

[personal profile] iceyred 2015-12-04 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
No. A lot of the wealth that has been produced by automation is blown by normal people on stupid shit. Then they try to justify it by saying 'I deserve it' or 'It's just $5 for a coffee (three times a week every week). That's not very much.'

Then they end up working shitty jobs so they can pay for crap they don't need and which does not make them happy. Whereas if they talked to a financial planner and put the money they were spending on crap in a bond/stock/wherever based on their long term goals, they would be richer and could potentially retire sooner.

Sitting around blaming 'the wealthy' is not going to solve your problems. Bill Gates is not to blame for your poor financial decisions. If you live in a first world country then you have a shit ton of choices and opportunities. Take advantage of that and quit blaming 'the wealthy' for 'capturing' money. Frankly, I doubt you could provide an example of that happening.

Re: controversial/confrontational/hostile/bitter opinions

(Anonymous) 2015-12-04 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, the wealthy have taken a large amount of the wealth though????? Like the top 1% account for about half of the wealth in the world, and predictions is that it will be OVER half as we approach 2020.

That's a shit ton of money going to a very small amount of people.

Re: controversial/confrontational/hostile/bitter opinions

(Anonymous) 2015-12-04 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
Pssssssst iceyred is a Republican, so pointing out that whole 1% thing doesn't bother him at all.
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Re: controversial/confrontational/hostile/bitter opinions

[personal profile] iceyred 2015-12-04 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Wealthy people are wealthy. Brilliant observation there. News flash: just because someone has more money than you does not mean you are being punished.

Boo-hoo, I will never be a one percenter. How sad. Thankfully, I have control over my saving/spending, and can become a millionaire next door.

Re: controversial/confrontational/hostile/bitter opinions

(Anonymous) 2015-12-04 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
But you said a. the wealthy aren't capturing the money and b. that the majority of the problem is that normal people are spending frivolously. Both these statements are untrue.

As much as you may want to deny it, the fact that the majority of the wealth goes to a small amount of people does effect you, it effects everyone. These are the same people who also have the power (because you know in our society wealth = power) to make everyone's quality of life go down. These are the same people who make wages stagnate while cost of living continues to increase. Gigantic companies are also the most likely to ship a job overseas and pay people unfair wages (we're not talking anything where you can save, we're talking below the poverty level and that's not even getting into unsafe working conditions and child labor.)

You live in a privileged position where you can control your savings, good for you. I don't know why you don't understand the relation between the super wealthy and your position in life though, blaming normal people, or the poor, has never "fixed" societies ills.
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Re: controversial/confrontational/hostile/bitter opinions

[personal profile] iceyred 2015-12-04 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Both of those statements are true and you are providing me with no evidence, or even anecdotal statements, to prove them wrong. You're spewing a lot of shit that your sociology professor told to make you feel like you have no power or responsibility to improve your life.

Some people have more money than you. That does not mean they stole it from you. That does not mean they owe you anything. Get over it.

You labor under the belief that we are all peasants except for the 1% who are kings and there is nothing that can change this situation. That's adorable. Even more adorable is your mention of child labor. Psst. The Fair Labor Standards Act was passed in 1938. America outlaws that shit.

I'll bet money you live in the first world, which means you are more privileged that most of the people on Earth. It's sad that you're too stupid to realize how blessed you are. Blaming other people for your problems never fixed anything.