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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-22 05:06 pm

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[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
#13: LOL XD

#32: Er. Because it made Harry happy? And it was the guy she'd wanted since she was ten years old?

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haunter: (TsuKona - XD!)

[personal profile] haunter 2008-02-22 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
46. THAT WAS PRACTICALLY MY REACTION. DID YOU KNOW?

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes? How did you not know? It's her default pic.
haunter: (Akira - >o<)

[personal profile] haunter 2008-02-22 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I mean like just because she uses an icon doesn't exactly mean "I SHIP IT" to me. ._. Plus I don't spend a lot of time in the TRC comms unless I'm posting icons. XD;

I had no idea and I lol'd like kwaaaaazy.

*Goes to read and lol further*
haunter: (Kurogane - Hmm?)

[personal profile] haunter 2008-02-22 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Edit;; Holy shit it's a manip.

Goddd I suck.

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The Saku/Kuro pic? Nah, it's a scene from the end of volume 15.

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you know, it's one of those journals I get linked to a lot.
haunter: (Konata - Three.)

[personal profile] haunter 2008-02-22 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've ever spoken to ekas, much less read a fic of hers from start to finish. I usually just skip along to the porny part. :/ I personally think she's a little overrated.

About the pic: OMG GOOD. It looks similar to some of Kurogane's Fai-assgrabs. ;~; /badiconmaker

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[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-02-22 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Not the OP, but... since she was ten years old? That's a little creepy, IMO.

And then there's the fact that she and Harry didn't have as much as one conversation in the whole series.

And, of course, the way Harry trusts Ron and Hermione as his equals, but not Ginny.

Oh, and in the end, he wanted to be alone with the ones that meant most to him... and Ginny wasn't included.

These things, and a few other details, made me a little... hesitant to like the pairing.

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[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Harry was eleven at the moment, so I don't see how it's creepy? It took around six years to happen, big deal. She dated other people in the meantime, she wasn't stalking him obsessively.

Er. Yes they did? In CoS and OotP they do :/

Right. Because his best friends, his FIRST friends, the ones that have ALWAYS been there for him and everything should count the same as his new gf? I thought it was perfect that those he wanted to be with the most were them. If he'd chosen the three? People'd be bitching about how zomg Ginny is now a part of the trio and it's just WRONG.

Well that's fine. Don't like it. *I* do.

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[identity profile] blonddynamite.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a Harry/Ginny fan in the slightest, but I agree with you wholeheartedly on the part about Harry choosing Ron and Hermione. He may have loved Ginny at that point, but Ron and Hermione were the ones who always stood by him through thick-and-thin for six years and were the first people he truly became friends with while Ginny only was able to really support and assist Harry sine about what? Mid-book five? It makes perfect sense for Harry to choose them and only them. And I don't see at all how that's even an arguement against Harry/Ginny or lessens the pairing at all.

I don't agree with a lot of the things Rowling did and the way she handled the last two books but that, if nothing else, is the one thing that I think she handled perfecltly; that the trio was always number one.

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[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Very much agreed :3

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[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I actually agree about Harry, Ron, and Hermione - I think their friendship was handled perfectly. I also love all the books, and while I dislike certain details in them (nothing is perfect), I think they're all very good.

I just think that Ginny is excluded too often for one to really care or believe in the pairing. I would have preferred the books without the tacked-on "true love".

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I just think that Ginny is excluded too often for one to really care or believe in the pairing.

No, you think that Ginny is excluded too often for YOU to really care or believe in the pairing.

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[identity profile] bodyline.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Excluded in what way? Because while I do feel the lead-up to them becoming a couple was done terribly and Ginny should have gradually been eased more into the limelight, I fail to see how she her being excluded after their get-together makes a difference. It made perfect sense in the context of the story and, if anything, was meant to prove that Harry did care for her; he didn't want her to get hurt on his account. =/

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[identity profile] postal152.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
I just think that Ginny is excluded too often for one to really care or believe in the pairing. I would have preferred the books without the tacked-on "true love".

Seconded. I love the books with all of my heart, and I was actually looking *forward* to being convinced to like that pairing by JKR, because I mean, who didn't know it was coming? I assumed she'd do it really well, since the woman is a storytelling goddess, but in the end I felt kind of cheated.

Then again, I found myself squeeing when Harry saved Draco. Hmm....

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[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
No, I don't mean that her crush on him when they were ten/eleven was creepy; it's the holding on to a crush she had as a ten year-old as she grows up that's creepy.

And I've never said she stalked him obsessively. Though I did find the part that she'd never given up on him while dating other people a bit much, really.

Er. Yes they did? In CoS and OotP they do :/

I meant an actual conversation, not a scolding (though where is the one in OotP? I think I've missed it). I especially would have liked one after Harry had become romantically interested in her. As things are, the impression one has is that he's only attracted to her looks.

Because his best friends, his FIRST friends, the ones that have ALWAYS been there for him and everything should count the same as his new gf?

Actually, I think your true love, which Ginny were supposed to be, should be your best friend, equal, and part of the most important happenings in your life. Especially in fiction, were things actually have to make sense (as opposed to real life where things generally just tend to happen at random, and would make awful stories).

Not to meantion that they all knew each other, and were supposed to be close; Ginny is Ron's sister, and I was frankly very surprised over the way she was left out.

I don't dislike the pairing because of the characters involved in it; I dislike the way it was written.

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[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Why? She's supposed to be his true love, but if she keeps liking him from the moment she meets him it's creepy? You can't have both.

Alright, maybe there isn't a deep conversation between them. There're lots of missing scenes, though. I'd rather have that, than have a chapter devoted to their relationship or something equally shippy and/or cheesy. She IS there for a lot of the stuff involving Voldemort.

Not to meantion that they all knew each other, and were supposed to be close; Ginny is Ron's sister, and I was frankly very surprised over the way she was left out.

He never included any of Ron's brothers before, either. I just like that he doesn't suddenly elevate Ginny to the same level of trust and attachment he has with Ron and Hermione. They've just been through way too much. It shouldn't mean that he doesn't love Ginny or anything. It just means they're different for him.

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(Anonymous) 2008-02-23 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
There was a whole book where the Gryffindors did practically nothing beyond date, and yet still there were never any deep interactions between H/G. And what stuff with Voldemort was she there for - the stuff where Harry waits for her to leave the room before he discusses the HBP, or the stuff where he sternly tells her not to get involved and she agrees? Or the stuff where he leaves her to her mother after her brother is killed because he needs some peace?

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[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-02-25 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
Why? She's supposed to be his true love, but if she keeps liking him from the moment she meets him it's creepy? You can't have both.

I don't think I understand what you mean? I meant that a ten-year old might not have the most mature feelings, and holding on to them sounds more like an obsession than true love.

I also have trouble believing true love between people who hardly know each other.

There're lots of missing scenes, though. I'd rather have that, than have a chapter devoted to their relationship or something equally shippy and/or cheesy.

I just wanted something. Like, for example, the scene at the end of... OotP, I think, where Harry has a meaningful conversation with Luna, and with a few words we really get the impression that they understand each other. I don't ship them, but it had the feeling of a deep friendship developing, and something similar with Ginny would have been nice.

He never included any of Ron's brothers before, either. I just like that he doesn't suddenly elevate Ginny to the same level of trust and attachment he has with Ron and Hermione.

I just would have thought she'd be included among his most important people... After all, it's what Rowling wanted us to think, wasn't it?

It just means they're different for him.

I think I'm very much a romantic, in that I can't imagine true love without an equally deep friendship. I find the romantic love lessened if it's separated from friendship. Though this is just my personal thoughts, of course.

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[identity profile] fraught.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
They don't need to have conversations! IT'S TWU WUV, DON'T YOU GET IT?! You're just supposed to accept that they've (maybe) had Deep And Meaningful(tm) conversations off-screen because Rowling couldn't be arsed to actually write H/G in any matter resembling "believable", and that their relationship isn't based on looks and Quidditch and snogging in dark corners.

Wordy McWord to your whole comment :)

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[identity profile] lejic.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
I can't help but add my Harry/Ginny theory that I came up with a long time ago when it became obvious that they were going to be canon and that we were going to lose the Kickass!Ginny to a more RomanticLoveInterest!Ginny (wow, it's been years):

Harry wanted to sleep with Ginny. As in, more than Epic Love, it was a 'wanting to bone her thing'(at least at first). I mean, we never read about him masturbating so we wouldn't know if he was fapping it to her since he was 12.
The only thing that annoys me about this pairing is that, like Remus/Tonks - it had so much potential if done right. I think both relationships kind of ruin the female characters. You CAN be kickass and still have Teh Epic Love. Tonks doesn't need to turn emo and Ginny doesn't need to have a fangirl-crush on Harry. If the fangirl-crush had been left out form the beginning, I would've liked the pairing more. I always thought of that crush as something she would move on from.


I feel like adding 'TL;DR'. XDD


Ahem, and about 46: Ditto. I LOLed. XD The only reason I'm reading the comments is to check reactions to 46. XDDD ♥ ♥ ♥


I would also like to point out that for a while (at least a month) I was convinced that glitz_x was your second account. XD I just naturally thought that. I never checked the journal, just assumed it was one of your RP journals or something. XD I don't know whyyyy~

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I always thought of that crush as something she would move on from.

She did :/ If she hadn't, she would've kept flailing and blushing when he came into a room.

I would also like to point out that for a while (at least a month) I was convinced that glitz_x was your second account. XD I just naturally thought that. I never checked the journal, just assumed it was one of your RP journals or something. XD I don't know whyyyy~

XD;;; Pfft what? But she has an icon comm and all! And I keep asking how to do the most basic stuff in my journal ;;;

[identity profile] lejic.livejournal.com 2008-02-23 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, she didn't exactly move on- her feelings just changed shape. They grew perhaps, but weren't 'moved on from'.

I can't explain it! XD It just happened! 83 ♥

(Anonymous) 2008-02-24 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
32. How about because she had to become pretty and popular for it to happen? That she wasn't good enough the way she was?

That's why I like Harry/Luna. Then he wouldn't be such a shallow bastard. And I can't see Luna changing for a guy.