[ SECRET POST #3261 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3261 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I hated them but I certainly stand by your right to like them. I love some super shitty movies with all my heart that I can't defend. Everyone has their thing, so go boldly and love yours.

For me, I think what bothers me the most is that I can see how the movies COULD have been good. I like most of the cast. The sets and costumes, etc. were really good. But even when I can put away my Tolkien-purist hat, the movies just aren't satisfying. I didn't cry when Thorin died. You had 9 hours to invest me in him and I even liked him but there was no emotional weight to his death. Not like Boromir if FOTR. And the movies are also really lazy. They start all sorts of threads (Arkenstone, Thranduil's jewels, Beorn, BoFA itself) that don't go anywhere. How am I supposed to invest in anything in the movies if THEY don't seem to care about them?

I found the EE disappointing too. It doesn't do nearly enough to fix the core issues of the movie. Even when you see a shot of Thorin with the Arkenstone, that doesn't tell me anything about how he got it and what it means for Bard and for the relationship going forward among all these people - a conflict that's pretty central to the movie. I thought the battle itself was confusing (never had this problem with LOTR battles, which actually helped me visualize the book better) and throwaway because the movie didn't give it any stakes.

All the additions the filmmakers brought in were really lazy. They didn't put in the effort to really incorporate them into the series. Even if there's a reason for all this stuff because of production issues, it doesn't change the fact of what was actually presented to us. And I really hated what we got. (Love picking it apart though.)

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that was one of my main complaints, too. You've been building up these characters for three movies but when they die-- not just Thorin, but Fili and Kili-- there's no weight to it, no time to mourn their loss. What they should've done was trim some time off the dozens of absurd fight scenes and let people see the aftermath of the battle. Without that, it feels rushed and without closure.