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fandomsecrets2015-12-08 06:29 pm
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One of the few posts that made me say, "Why is this happening?" was a post where a user screen-capped someone else's post (the original posters name wasn't included) about wanting to hug Kilgrave, because "maybe if we all hugged him then he'd calm the fuck down". Sureeeeee he would. (That post wasn't a, "Totes agreed!", it was a "Wow, people are already treating Kilgrave like a woobie.") The second one that jumps to mind included a screen-cap of Kilgrave sprouting that line about consent (something like, "You have my word, I won't touch you without your consent") and added "Kilgrave gets it." Which...COMPLETELY MISSES THE POINT, but I resisted the urge to comment.
I've seen more "If you ship Jessica and Kilgrave gtfo" then I've seen people actually express interest in the pairing, though I know interest exists.
Frankly, as much as I loathe the ship (Though, again, I will point out that I don't dislike all 'problematic' ships, just this one), I don't think it's right to tell people they can't or shouldn't ship something. I certainly wouldn't want anyone to tell me I can't ship something for my own personal reasons; it's rude, pushy and pointless. (The only post like that I enjoyed had a gif of Gamora saying, "Your ship is filthy", and that was it. It made me chuckle.)
As for people adoring Kilgrave...it isn't my thing (and I do think some people might have a different response to Kilgrave if he wasn't played by David, but given that RL rapists can be handsome and look 'perfectly normal' too, I think it's good casting. Doubly so that his acting is so terrifyingly on point), but I've seen more hate then outright love. (Or people reluctantly admitting they love him then adding "I don't think he's justified in his actions.")
That's tumblr, though; don't go to reddit. I made that mistake a while back and saw a couple of people who actually said they were rooting for Kilgrave because Jessica was 'so annoying', or 'such a bitch,' or 'utterly unlikable'. That in addition to the people who 'totally sympathized' with Kilgrave or wanted his powers left me profoundly disturbed.
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Honestly if the pairing is being written as completely fucked up I could see the appeal since fandom likes messed up things, though I don't know how I feel about the ship myself, this one might be just a bit much for me but at the same time if people dig it. Well alright.
I thought Kilgrave was a great villain but sympathy for the guy? Nope.
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You know, I haven't seen much of that in other fandoms. Not recently. Like, it has to happen, but I don't run into it much; I feel like it's either becoming less common or I'm avoiding it more easily because of the size of the fandoms. I was actually kind of surprised to run into it in JJ because fandom loves their villains, but I think so many people have met someone like Kilgrave that he feels much more real (and skeevy) to them; it's harder to enjoy his brand of evil.
Still don't think you should be telling someone what they can or can't like, but I find this knee-jerk reaction a bit easier to understand then some.
I thought Kilgrave was a great villain but sympathy for the guy?
Though I agree with that; never in a million years, lol.
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It's why I get some of the hostility towards people liking Kilgrave, but at the same time you can't tell people what to like, that and there is a huge difference between finding a character entertaining and condoning their actions(fandom has a problem with recognising this tho, on both ends).
Oh god no, I can't feel sorry for him at all, he was the ultimate spoiled child with a persecution complex a mile-wide and he deserved way more than a quick death(but I'll take it).
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Ooo, that's a good example. I was never an invested member of HP fandom but I've heard much over the years about the passionate hate people have for Umbridge; can't say I don't understand it.
There's a massive difference, yea. (There ARE always people willing to make excuses for villains but those people are fewer in number then the people who just like them as is. Er, at least in some fandoms.)
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(Anonymous) 2015-12-09 02:57 am (UTC)(link)no subject
That's just sad. (I don't do facebook anyway, but...geez, guys.)
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(Anonymous) 2015-12-09 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)