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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-12 04:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3265 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3265 ⌋

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Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not clicking on that link because the title looks like its another "Safe spaces are baaaad. It's totally a good thing for me to be an ignorany bully / abuser / privileged violent shitweasle to marginalised groups" shit-pieces. I don't want to support that.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Even the president of the US thinks the whole "everything should be safe place" mentality is stupid.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"Everything should be a safe space" is a different argument from "safe spaces have some value."

And a lot of people seem to spend a lot of time getting really angry at the idea that everything should be a safe space, and then end by concluding that safe spaces are completely worthless.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Because if everywhere can't be a safe space then nowhere should be a safe space. There is no possible in-between.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
If you want a safe space, hang out in your bedroom and invite all your friends (that don't have differing opinions from you obvs).

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
That doesn't make any sense, anon. Why should that be the only way to have a safe space/

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Because no one should be required to protect anyone else's delicate sensibilities.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
But the whole concept of politeness and courtesy is about protecting other peoples' delicate sensibilities.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yet people like you always have the most delicate sensibilities, to get so upset about the request that they treat people decently.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
A safe space=/=a place where people don't have differing opinions. A safe place would be somewhere where opinions are expressed respectfully and without deliberately seeking out to start an argument (which is not the same thing as a debate): in other words, a space where people are polite.

If the concept of being asked to be polite sounds OMG OPRESSIVE!!!! to you, you may be the one who's oversensitive.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Admittedly it does. I hesitated on it too before reading, but the author half heartedly points out that isn't what they mean.

In concept, I’m not against the idea of “safe spaces” at all. It can be very healthy and relieving to be able to express yourself in a judge-free zone. Often “safe spaces” provide the opportunity to feel understood when that understanding is hard to find in other places.


By the way, acknowledging that the real world isn’t a “safe space” shouldn’t be seen as an invitation to be cruel toward others or to never try to make the world a better place, but it is something that we have to accept within reason.


It's still heavy on the 'whaaaa how dare people want to be respected' side.