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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-13 03:58 pm

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
More female people menstruate than male people.

All other things being equal, we should expect the menstruation rates amongst one's friends to approach the menstruation rates of people in the general population.

Therefore, we would expect female friends to be more able to commiserate about menstruation than men.

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blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-12-13 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)

Therefore, we would expect female friends to be more able to commiserate about menstruation than men.


I don't really see the link, nonny. Is there any evidence implying that because one menstruates, they're more likely to express sympathy for another's menstruation problems?

I'm not saying that's not the case. I'm just saying I'd like to see some evidence for a positive claim on that.

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You're on [community profile] fandomsecrets. The year is 2015. You're conversing about menstruation and sympathy.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really see the link, nonny. Is there any evidence implying that because one menstruates, they're more likely to express sympathy for another's menstruation problems?

We're not talking about expressing *sympathy*. We're talking about commiseration and giving advice.

(a) commiseration requires shared experience definitionally and (b) probably the most common route to being able to give useful advice about menstruation is through having experienced it yourself, since there are far more people who menstruate than there are doctors.

Therefore, if you are seeking commiseration and advice, you should seek people who menstruate. More women menstruate than men, so if you made friends with one man and one women, all other things being equal, the woman is statistically likely to be better at commiseration and advice.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-12-13 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
We're not talking about expressing *sympathy*. We're talking about commiseration and giving advice.

(a) commiseration requires shared experience definitionally and


By what definition? All the ones I've seen literally define it as "expressing sympathy" or some such. There is no added qualifier of needing shared experience.

If that isn't a required point to define it, then it isn't a qualifier.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You are an idiot. Like... Wow.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-12-13 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
So I'm right, basically?

+1

(Anonymous) 2015-12-14 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Trolling or not, definitely an idiot.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"Commiseration" is literally "to lament with", to feel with someone.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-12-13 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
By what definition? Webster? Macmillian?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
NA If I get this right (heh): you can commiserate together with someone or towards someone. Like:

With: "You've bled through your pants! Fuck, that sucks! If you tie your blazer around your waist no-one's going to notice. Let's find a rest room."

Towards: "You've bled through your pants! Here, tie my jacket around your waist and no-one's going to notice. It's hardly visible anyway."

A sympathetic person can of course be either gender, but you might need less explaining with a person in-the-know.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
You're either autistic or you're trolling, but either way you're really, really bad at this conversation and you should stop.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-14 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Wowwwwwwwwwwww using ableism too to attack, classy!
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[personal profile] mudousetsuna 2015-12-15 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Ahaha, no, I'm autistic and even I'm not this dense.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are you being deliberately obtuse about this? Sure, it's bad to assume and generalize, but it seems a pretty logical assumption that women are more qualified for commiseration about menstruation than men.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-12-13 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I just don't see the link in "has a period = more sympathetic".

I don't think it should be that hard for people to explain their reasoning behind it, if it's such a logical assumption to make.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Experiencing something personally gives one a better understanding of it? Talking to a man about periods is like talking to a virgin about sex. Sure, they can nod along, but the empathy and depth of understanding isn't there.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
NA I've certainly got a lot of empathy and depth of understanding from males towards bio-female stuff, boyfriends, casual friends and professionals.

That's why I prefer male gynecologists over female. The male gyns I've met treat me like an individual, but the female ones have without exception treated me like a run-of-the-mill piece of meat. That covers explaining procedures and pre-warnings, pain medication and general humanity. My female gyns have been rough, unsympathetic and rolling their eyes if I dared ask about stuff they obviously thought every woman should have known already. Or maybe I have a female gyn-provoking pussy, what do I know.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-12-14 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw man, that really sucks. I've had two female gyns. They are/were both really great. Never had a male one though.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-14 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
DA Except I've found the opposite, that many women assume that their version of what a period is like is the only version, and if yours is different you're obviously lying. Unable to get out of bed for two days because of the pain and puking? Woman up! Stop being a whiner! No cramps at all? Oh stop trying to impress me here I know that's a lie!

(Anonymous) 2015-12-14 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
DA
I've never had that happen ever. Stop befriending shitty people, anon.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-12-14 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen it happen with that particular thing, but I've definitely seen too much of that "MY EXPERIENCE IS EVERYONE'S EXPERIENCE" crap from people. It is very annoying.