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⌈ Secret Post #3274 ⌋

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[8 out of 10 Cats]

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[Scott Weiland, Stone Temple Pilots]

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stereotypically "gay"/feminine to be straight? My friend's boyfriend is "feminine" according to our other friends (I don't think he is, just not super masculine, but that's beside the point) and they swear he HAS to be gay and is eventually going to cheat on her with a guy. I don't think how feminine/masculine you are necessarily has anything to do with your sexuality but they say I'm just being overly PC and that if a guy seems feminine or sterotypically gay then there's no way he could possibly be straight.

Are they just idiots like I'm thinking, or do you think there could be some truth to it?

"Do you think it's possible for guys who seem stereotypically "straight"/masculine to be gay? My friend's boyfriend is "masculine" according to our other friends (I don't think he is, just not super feminine, but that's beside the point) and they swear he HAS to be straight and is eventually going to cheat on him with a girl..."

I actually knew someone in that situation! Of course the 'straight' seeming guy turned out to be bi, but still...

Yeah no, they're being idiots.

Masculinity, femininity, and sexual orientation are separate.

they're not inherently intertwined but practically, they're not separate. behavior is part of your identity. sure you can be a feminine guy or a masculine woman and be totally straight but in reality the probability that someone who aligns along the complementary role behavior-wise will also align along the respective role's traditional way of desiring. Mostly because behavior is acquired and influenced by how we perceive roles and desire. If I grow up believing it's normal for all guys to be into girls and then realize I'm into girls I will A identify more with guys and thus act more like them and B try to actively mimick their behavior to have better chances with the desired sex, who I believe are into boys.
Again, this does not happen always or to everyone, and it will change as society changes but statistically speaking, it's likely. Also it's my own personal experience.

We used to call this "metrosexual."

Personally I think it's perfectly normal. Conforming to gender norms is a separate concept from sexual orientation or gender identity.

Yes? Just like there's gay men who are burly masculine slobs with shit fashion sense. I just think it's more rare because society sanctions feminine behaviors in males.

There was a teacher at my first highschool who seemed very effeminate, but as far as I know, was happily married to a woman.

Personally, I've met more guys in that spectrum who were bi to some degree that completely straight, but at least 3 of those actually skew heavily towards women (including one of my exes).

Also cheating is not...sexual-orientation-linked, or whatever you call it? It's a personality/decency/respect thing.

Maybe he's European.

I always found that funny. Does that mean we have better gaydars in Europe? Or more effeminate men? Or that our gays are even gayer?

Yes.

there's an idea/stereotype in the US that european guys are more easily mistaken for gay by american gay stereotypes--care more about how they dress and grooming, are more physically affectionate, etc

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the hands down most "girly" girl i know is bi; the most man's man SPORTS AND BEER dude is gay. i know several women who look and talk like butch lesbians who are straight and a few boys who care a lot about their clothes and appearance and who are straight

tl;dr: gender stereotypes are still not real

Gender stereotypes exist for a reason, you PC cunt.

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You're automatically right if someone's argument against you is "You're just being too PC."

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Your friends are idiots.

they're idiots

I think I'm pretty girly, and I like girls. It's possible to be a male lipstick lesbian, as it were. Like Eddie Izzard.

One of my straight male friends has worked as a hairdresser in a salon full of women. He's not very feminine, but he seems to be missing whatever it is that makes most guys hesitate or run screaming in the opposite direction when faced with traditionally female activities. Maybe being raised in a house full of women has something to do with it. Idk.

It works for him. He can actually have conversations with women. When he was single he was getting a lot more action than any of my other male friends.

Yes, it's possible. Your friends are idiots.

EDIT: Of course he could be bi, feminine, and monogamous.

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Nah, it's definitely possible. I've known a few.

Is it weird that I'd be fine with my boyfriend cheating on me with a guy? Just because I know it'll be completely out of my control-I can't be a guy, etc, so it wouldn't be that painful?

No, I'd also be far less bothered if my boyfriend cheated on me with a guy. I remember having a conversation with two friends a loooong time ago and they both thought it'd be extra horrible to be cheated on with a guy, which I don't get at all. If it's another woman then I'd be wondering that I did something wrong or wasn't good enough or whatever. But if it was a guy, I wouldn't feel like it was my fault cause no matter what I did, I couldn't be a guy.

I used to have a bi boyfriend and I was fine with him wanting to be with a guy sometimes as long as they used condoms.

Yes. No truth.

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