[ SECRET POST #3277 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3277 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Leonardo DiCaprio]



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[John Barrowman]


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[Jurassic Park III, Alan/Billy]


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Comments

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I totally agree. It's the same way I don't think people who are into loli are pedos. I think there's a different dynamic to it with make otaku fanning lolis - like it's absolutely about having a non-threatening sexual fantasy for the stereotypical NEET or whatever, I think. It's not about actual little girls, it's about wanting women but not having the self esteem to engage an adult woman, with some sexist snarf about fetishizing submission and childlike qualities in women.

With women who are into shota... I feel like it's more complicated. I think it plays into power dynamics. "Mainstream" shota ships like in Black Butler or Loveless feature very precocious boys in toxic relationships with some older guy who is fucking him over in some way. I don't think you could have that same sort of power dynamic if the ages were different. It's playing on vulnerability and naivete in a way that's acceptable at a certain age but would make you think of the character as a retard if he were 25.

Women who are into loli I think are almost exclusively into picturing themselves as the loli and are into older men, from what I've seen.

I'm not sure if this made sense, but tl;dr I agree.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Oddly enough my friends are pretty non-stereotypical of the examples you gave. My one friend who is into loli is a bisexual girl who almost exclusively enjoys girl/girl loli wither either both girls being younger or one being an 'older sister' type.

With shota, one friend tends towards the Loveless/Kuroshitsuji type dynamic (and I think it's very fascinating that you bring up power dynamics, I never really thought of it that way before), but the other is very fond of both of the characters being shotas. That is the one I mentioned who is into the overly "cute" stuff.

As for guys who like loli, I agree, I think a lot of it has to do with not feeling comfortable interacting with real women. And lolis in animes, at least the more mainstream ones I've seen, all tend towards that "whatever onii-chan (aka audience insert character) likes, I'll always love onii-chan" types, all welcoming and sweet and submissive, which I imagine makes them very popular with the socially repressed.

Re: OP

[sachiko_san]

In the case of Kuroshitsuji though, it's very clearly stated that Sebastian is a demon that Ciel made a deal with to get out of the bad situation he was in and t help him get revenge on the people who killed his parents. Ciel knows what's going to happen once he enacts his revenge and for all we know, he seems perfectly okay with it if it means avenging his parents. Plus as a demon, Sebastian has different morals than humans.