[ SECRET POST #3278 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3278 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Scott Weiland, Stone Temple Pilots]


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[Super Smash Bros/Mario RPG]


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[Xena: Warrior Princess]


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[The Martian, The Force Awakens]


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Comments

Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[(Anonymous)]

Christmas isn't a secular holiday, what the fuck are you smoking? Is this your way of sticking it to that one crazy anti-Thanksgiving anon?

Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[dethtoll]

We're sorry, your post cannot be accepted as typed. Please reread the post you were responding to and try again.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Dude, I get that you have an irrational hateboner for anons, especially ones who disagree with you in anyway, but seriously? That's not warranted.

Your claim that Christmas is "as much a secular holiday as a religious one" is simply untrue. There's nothing secular about a holiday that's been rooted in Christianity for centuries, and that probably originally grew out of pagan festivals that sure as fuck weren't secular.

You say that you know Jewish people who celebrate Christmas along with their friends, but do you really think those Jewish people would be celebrating Christmas if they lived in mostly Jewish communities and didn't have any gentile friends? (Answer: Most likely, they would not.)

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[dethtoll]

You're trying so hard.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[dethtoll]

You're really, really upset because I suggested that Christmas might have taken on a secular meaning (themes of family, friendship, homecoming, goodwill, none of which are married to religious concepts) outside of its origins in Pagan and later Christian traditions and indeed apart from the entirely unreligious commercialization by corporate interests dating back to the beginning of the industrial age, and that secular nature has made it easier for many Jews (who might even still celebrate Hanukkah with their families) to celebrate Christmas as a secular holiday. That really seems to offend you on a personal level, so you're posting multiple-paragraph whines at me to show how offended you are.

I'm sorry people were meanies to you (and you're certainly allowed to celebrate whatever you want, I personally don't like Christmas either) but it doesn't mean I'm wrong.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[dethtoll]

So, let me get this straight: me suggesting that Christmas is widely considered to be a secular holiday and stating that some Jews celebrate it as such = telling you that you personally as an individual should be celebrating Christmas why don't you fucking celebrate Christmas you weirdo? Nevermind that not only did I not say anything anywhere remotely of the sort, but I even said you have the right to celebrate whatever the fuck you want.

Somewhere, there's a world where that works. Not even going to touch the pogrom stuff, because that's just you getting all het up with righteous indignation because you're reading whatever the fuck you wanna read out of my posts.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[(Anonymous)]

stop with your bullying, you irredeemable anti-semitic piece of shit, AYRT is stronger than you, you can't make her kill herself no matter how hard you try

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[(Anonymous)]

Hi, I'm the anon who's been arguing with dethtoll in this thread. If this is you trying to white-knight for me, you're doing a piss poor job of it. Stop.

And I don't think dethtoll is an anti-Semite either, even though I strongly disagree with him on this point.

So kindly fuck off.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[dethtoll]

lol ignore them, my fanclub has been pushing that "dethtoll got someone to kill themselves" gag for a while now.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh good for you anon I hate it when people try to speak for me like that.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[dethtoll]

LOL

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[dethtoll]

So why use this thread as a springboard to scream at me for suggesting that a holiday might have secular connotations when you could be better spending your time shaming other Jews for celebrating Christmas? After all, they're clearly the weird ones.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[dethtoll]

The only person trying to convince you of anything ITT is yourself.

I never said it didn't have religious connotations. What I said was that it has secular connotations separate from pre-existing religious connotations. You can choose to focus on those religious ties. Most people don't, and you don't get to tell them they are. You sound a whole hell of a lot like Thanksgiving Anon actually.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[(Anonymous)]

What in the world? Christmas is MORE a secular holiday than a religious one, imo. Most people celebrate it with very, very little thought to religion, if any at all. If you're not acting for any divine reason, how could you call it religious? Santa myths, trees, cookies, presents - none of that is remotely biblical. It's just a gift giving family holiday.

If someone doesn't want to participate because of religious reasons, or because it's simply not a part of their culture, that's their choice. But Christmas doesn't actually have to have anything to do with Christianity, and many, many non-Christians celebrate it every year.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[dethtoll]

See: Japan.

(frozen comment) Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[comma_chameleon]

I dunno. To me Christmas is pretty damn secular if you choose to see it that way. NO ONE in my immediate family is super Christian, and my father is Jewish. We all celebrate Christmas as a time to get together, eat too much, and buy each other nice things/silly gifts.

Can it be a religious holiday for some people? Absolutely. But I don't think celebrating it as a secular holiday is doing it wrong either.

Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[(Anonymous)]

Christmas IS a secular holiday - at least it can be, and I'd MOST Westerners celebrate it at least mostly non-religiously (as well as some countries like Japan and such). My family is atheist, we celebrate Christmas, very easy to do without religion. Santa, Christmas trees, gift-giving, celebrating with family, wine, good food - completely nothing to do with Christianity.

It's basically a winter solstice feast day with its own mythology that just so happens to currently be called Christmas. Fuck, it used to be a pagan celebration, after all.

Re: I Really Hate Christmas

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think Christmas is a secular holiday, but many people celebrate it as such, so it's possible to treat it that way. I'm also an atheist. I don't decorate a tree, but that's really more about my laziness than any belief system. I exchange presents and have a nice dinner with family and wish people a Merry Christmas, though.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

It's not secular, no matter how much people try to pretend it is. You wanna celebrate it, fine, just don't go around telling non-Christians they they should.

Re: +1

[dethtoll]

Nobody is telling you you should celebrate Christmas. (Well, except that one anon upthread, which is not me thank you very much.) Calling it a secular holiday is not the same thing as telling you you should celebrate Christmas. Hell, I barely celebrate it myself, mostly out of obligation to my mother.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it is secular. Listen, if you throw a party without any mention of God or any religious dogma, you're not doing something religious. If you don't even think about religion, worship, the divine, religious rules or texts in any way, you are not acting religiously.

I don't give a shit if someone doesn't want to celebrate Christmas. But it's pretty hilarious that you're telling all the non-Christians out there that by celebrating a holiday in a 100% secular way, they are actually being Christians.