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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-26 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #3279 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3279 ⌋

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Re: Based On 8

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
The Prime Directive of the Internet is "Once it is out there, it is out there". The internet interprets censorship, even self-censorship, as damage and routes around it. If you cannot accept that, then please stay off the internet and stay in paperspace.

Re: Based On 8

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Original anon - I don't think that's entirely fair. Also important to note is that the person wrote it in 2000ish. This was way before almost everybody had access to the internet and knew how to google. So they couldn't have known that there might actually be a chance their work might be read by someone they'd rather not find it someday. And honestly, self-censorship is a right. It would be different if ff.n had copyright laws (meaning they owned your work) but AFAIK they didn't at the time and do not now. The other website the fic was posted on was her own, so.

DA

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Please fuck off already.

If someone interprets a person taking down their own fic as "OMG CENSORSHIP THAT MUST BE FOUGHT AGAINST" then they're an entitled idiot.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that, too-I don't really see someone choosing to take down their own work as "censorship", at least, not in the way that that term tends to be used and understood.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I almost have to wonder whether people who think that have actually ever written much - if any - fanfiction. Maybe they have, but it seems to me you should know how seriously people take their work.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
You're confused. This isn't about feelings. It's about structure.

The internet routes around censorship (meaning, in this case, the removal of information) the way water seeks its own level. You might not like that water does that. You might think it has bad consequences. You might even be right. You can King Canute this all you want, but it will not change what the water does.

It may be good or bad, right or wrong, that the internet routes around censorship in any particular case. None of that is relevant. It's a structural fact. Information wants to be free as a structural property of information.

Re: Based On 8

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I get that that's the attitude about the internet in general, but I also think people have the right to do what they want with their own work if they so choose. I don't know what someone's reasons for taking down their work are, and I don't really feel it's my place to pester or force them to change their mind, or work around their decision and put it back up without their consent.

*Shrugs* You're free to disagree.

Re: Based On 8

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
We're not talking about oppressive dictatorships trying to prevent information about their war crimes from leaking to the internet here though. We're talking about people wanting to delete the crappy fanfic they wrote when they were thirteen. What kind of damage results from deleting something so inconsequential in the larger scheme of things?

Re: Based On 8

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
We're not talking about oppressive dictatorships trying to prevent information about their war crimes from leaking to the internet here though. We're talking about people wanting to delete the crappy fanfic they wrote when they were thirteen

Precisely.

Actually, that goes for a lot of online discussions...