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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-08 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3292 ]


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[personal profile] elaminator 2016-01-09 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I definitely don't mind redemption arcs... If done right, and realistically. Some characters are more likely to get an arc like that then others, though. (For instance, if anyone wrote Hannibal a redemption arc I'd laugh in their face. That man doesn't see what he's doing wrong, and if he did he still wouldn't care about redemption. But as long as it works for the character and their story, it's good.)

I think some redemption arcs come off as shallow because the consequences of the characters actions aren't explored enough, or the characters don't own up to what they did. In that case, I'd rather they stay a villain.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-01-09 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. Hannibal redemption fics are not going to be in-character. And I read a Sauron redemption fic once and it was honestly scary. Now, I'm currently reading a WIP never went evil in the first place Mairon fic that seems to work so far. But a redemption fic? The idea is a little terrifying.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2016-01-09 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
I've never even seen or heard of a Hannibal redemption fic (the idea boggles the mind), but I know there are some AU's where Hannibal isn't a cannibal. That defeats the purpose for me.

A Sauron redemption fic sounds just as laughable.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-01-09 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
The fic was pretty laughable. It was a Sauron/Eonwe fic, and Sauron being evil was all Eonwe's fault. It was so hilariously out of character. I mean, I love Sauron as a character so very much, but he was already full of himself and had issues even before he went full on evil. And the idea that he murdered and tortured and did general dark lord things just because his true love didn't try hard enough to save him just makes me laugh.

Hannibal not a cannibal? What's the point? The whole point of his character is how sick and twisted he is. Where's the fun if he isn't that?
elaminator: (Hannibal: Bedelia)

[personal profile] elaminator 2016-01-09 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose the non-cannibal AU's come from people who find Mads' attractive and charming and want to ship him with Hugh, but don't want to write anything as dark as the actual show.

Again, I don't understand it (why would you watch in the first place?), but some people like to change things around completely.

I suppose that's the same reason whoever wrote the Sauron redemption fic...
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[personal profile] elaminator 2016-01-09 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Well, to be fair to you this whole memory palace scenario makes more sense than a straight up, “Hannibal woke up one day and released he's evil and should change" scenario (Which would never in a million years happen). If his reason for attempting redemption was simply so Will would accept him... Well, Hannibal doesn't have it in him, he couldn't change that drastically and wouldn't want to, but he IS obsessed with Will, so... It could be worse.

It still sounds better than a lot of Hannibal fic tbh.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2016-01-09 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
I am curious about that Never Evil fic. Could I get the URL from you?
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-01-09 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. It is actually a fic series. The pairing is Mairon/Celebrimbor. The first part is here: http://archiveofourown.org/works/5262704.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-09 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
There are roughly three types of villains like this:

1) The villain is completely unsympathetic, with no positive or even morally gray qualities, and the possibility of redeeming them is never seriously discussed in canon.

2) The possibility of redeeming the villain is discussed, and the villain receives some narrative sympathy, but isn't redeemed in canon.

3) The villain is successfully redeemed.