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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-12 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3296 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3296 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Pokemon/Harry Potter]


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[Blue Submarine No. 6]


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[Ronin Warriors/Yoroiden Samurai Troopers]


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05.
[Bucky Barnes]


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06.
[Stephen King's The Stand]


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07.
[Adam West/Batman]


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[Haruchika]


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(George R.R. Martin)


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10.
[Mortal Kombat]


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[Carmen Sandiego]


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[Brooklyn Nine Nine]


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[Star Wars: The Force Awakens]













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(Anonymous) 2016-01-13 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP (in case that wasn't so obvious), so this is just my interpretation and of course it's possible Yami was included in error because I do agree he's the odd man out of the bunch, but!

I would still consider Yami both traits, especially when he thought he was just another aspect of Yugi, because he's getting revenge for "himself" and really rubbing the offender's nose in the dirt. And he takes pleasure in doing so! And there's this consistent theme that he is the one is in control during all those games. Also, he only metes out the viligante justice when Yugi or his friends are endangered.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-13 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
He does do that (though he comes out to protect people other than Yugi much more often than for Yugi himself) but...how does that translate into being power-hungry or self-obsessed? Selfish maybe, and cocky/prideful/lording his power over others, but that's not at all the same thing. Self-obsessed means, well, thinking and/or talking about oneself and one's own issues and traits all the time and being preoccupied with one's own goals without caring about other things going on. He never does this - he never comes out early on except in reaction to someone else's actions, and people have to ask him to talk about himself or his problems before he does. And power-hungry means striving for more power and control and being discontented with one's own level of power, which he again doesn't ever do. Sure he wants to always be the best at games but that's solely a pride thing.

(LOL I can't believe I'm writing this much analysis about freaking yugioh ;))

(Anonymous) 2016-01-13 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
See, I would say that when he didn't know/acknowledge that he and Yugi were separate people that all his actions were self-obsessed. In protecting and avenging Yugi, he's just protecting and avenging himself, because he's an alter-ego then and not a separate individual. As for power-hungry, it's not so much the Kaiba or Pegasus type, but he's still actively trying to expand his own influences and as the prequel series progresses, I remember Yugi blacking out more and more frequently because Yami's control over their shared body increased.

I think though, that our definitions of the two words don't match up and my definitions are broader than yours. Definitely agree with you on most of his actions stemming from pride, but I think his own assumption that he was a part of Yugi is key.

(Only on F!S.)

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-13 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I went on about this before, should have used Malik instead, since he replaced my replaced my crush on Yami when he got introduced, since Yami Yugi at that point were less prone to killing sprees... No, you're right, Yami, in the end, wasn't motivated by the same things as some of these other psychos, or at least to a lesser extent than, say, Grimmjow or Sasuke. But when I started reading Yu-Gi-Oh, he was pretty much just out there murdering children and isn't that an attractive sign in a male?

But I wouldn't say that Agito is self-obsessed or that Mukuro is whiny either - all characteristics doesn't fit into all characters, but I still think they all can still be placed within the same loose archetype. Arguable, the rest would also have more fleshed-out motivations if they were main characters instead of being villains or rivals. And I with the other poster, that yes, a bit power-hungry and selfish he sure was, even if he was grayer than some other characters.