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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-14 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3298 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3298 ⌋

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Re: Least Favorite Cop Outs

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-01-15 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
A few days ago, I posted about the tendency to respond to Doylist criticism with increasingly loud Watsonian justifications. ("Why is the sniper half-naked?" "Because she breathes through her skin." "No, why did they choose to make her half-naked?" "Because she breathes through her skin!") It turns out this is called the Thermian Argument: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AxV8gAGmbtk
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Re: Least Favorite Cop Outs

[personal profile] skeletal_history 2016-01-15 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Aaaaaargh, I hate it when people do that. I'm firmly on the Doylist side of the spectrum, and I hate how these arguments usually end with me feeling like or people telling me that I'm an unimaginative curmudgeon who has lost the wonderfully childlike magical ability to believe these fictional characters are real.

They're not real! But the author is real, and I like examning the author's choices in creating thiese fictional people and what effect they have within their world and outside of their world as characters.

Re: Least Favorite Cop Outs

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
The sniper is naked because when she lost the ability to speak communication through body language took on new importance. The sniper is naked because the relationship between her and the main character, including a mutual sexual attraction, forms the heart of the story. The sniper is naked because that's the kind of wank material the creator digs. Take your pick.

Re: Least Favorite Cop Outs

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
>The sniper is naked because that's the kind of wank material the creator digs

this is the only explanation

Re: Least Favorite Cop Outs

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Similar cop out that I hate. "Who cares if she's untalented, she looks hot." Fuck you, pal. You could have found someone talented if you gave a rat's ass.