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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-14 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3298 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3298 ⌋

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ninety6tears: jim w/ red bground (Default)

[personal profile] ninety6tears 2016-01-15 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Okay but your reasoning is pretty cynical. God forbid we want BETTER romances rather than wanting them to go away entirely. I hope if they do the Finn/Rey thing that it stays subtle and believable.

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I had to lol, because that's very accurate, I am SUPER cynical.

(warning: tl;dr thoughts on canon ships)

I started off being a canon shipper but got burned by shows ruining what made the OTP special either by dragging the UST on too long (if one person has moved on and is getting married to a third party, it's over! stop teasing the ship and let it die!) or hooking the characters up and promptly throwing obstacle after contrived obstacle to tear them apart and mire them in soapie drama.

And with movies, because of the limited screen-time compared to tv shows, it's the opposite problem - I've found many of them throw characters together without developing any foundation and it seems shallow and unbelievable.

I love romance, I live for it in fics, but I just don't trust writers to do relationships properly. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though! TFA thrilled my heart with the minority representation and female lead, so it could go on to surprise me with a wonderfully developed romance.
ninety6tears: lucrezia side profile (borgias)

Re: OP

[personal profile] ninety6tears 2016-01-15 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't disagree with most of what you said, I guess I just choose to be more optimistic. The thing that I like so far about Finn & Rey is that they have at least a friendship that's moving very fast yet actually feels right when neither of them have had anyone really close to them for years and years if not ever, and while it would make sense to me for that to develop into romantic love I would be cringing if it became overemphasized as the entire nature of their connection which so far is kind of pure (not to say that romance has to be impure) and fundamental...it would just feel more natural to me for there to remain a hint of intensity but maybe no outright love scene (so that I can resent fandom's insistence that it's therefore 100% platonic of course, lol). I like that they'll probably have spent some time apart and grown a lot once they see each other again, but at the same time I'm wary about whether they might try to rush in a romance rather than play it as this warm but ambiguous reunion.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
That is a good point re: Finn and Rey being apart having adventures on their own when we see them in the next movie - it was cute how fast they bonded, but also a symptom of how isolated and lonely they were their whole lives, so of course when there's someone who shows affection and concern, they're going to 'grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel' as my grandfather loved to quote. But I do think they need time to (cliche as this sounds) find themselves and who they are without each other.

I just hope they don't go down that 'oh, I'm so awkward around you now because of ~feelings' path when they reunite. This is prob the reason I'm not fond of friends-to-lovers, when I enjoy the friendship and affectionate banter dynamic, it's irritating to lose that once the characters fall for each other and don't know how to act and get jealous of people flirting with their object of affection, etc. (see Friends, I'll never not be annoyed Rachel and Ross hooked up so early in the series)

Anyway. When I made this secret, I was feeling pretty pessimistic, but your comments have cheered me up and made me hopeful about what we might see in the sequel so thank you for that. I'll keep my fingers crossed that the writers choose your 'warm but ambiguous reunion'. ^_^

(like when Finn and Poe ran into each other's arms! that could be friendship but plenty of people interpret it as romantic!)

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you. There is such a thing as good romance in films. I would argue that the industry has been built on many stories like that in the past.