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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-19 06:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #3303 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3303 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-20 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Bisexual trans guy anon here with firsthand experience so perhaps I can explain a bit! :D Topping and bottoming within the gay/bi community refer solely to who is putting their dick where. I sympathize with OP too because who tops and who bottoms has literally nothing to do with what you look like, it's what gets your crank going sexually. Hinata being a short guy is going to mean absolutely zero on whether or not he wants to put his dick inside Kageyama, or have Kageyama put his dick inside him, or both. (Lots of young gay/bi guys tend to do a mix of both too, and then depending on the individuals in the relationship some sort of fall into mostly set top/bottom roles, and others are firmly versatile. FWIW, I could definitely see Kageyama and Hinata as versatile, and Kageyama would probably be really nervous/embarrased as hell about bottoming at first, so I imagine there would be a lot of wheedling and pleading on Hinata's part to get what he wants lol.)

If you're talking about actual power dynamics within a m/m couple, you'll use words like "service top" or "submissive top" for a guy who likes to top in large part because that's what brings his partner (the bottom) pleasure. And bottoms who take control and order around their tops are called "power bottoms" or "dominant bottoms". However, lots of people don't really have power dynamics that are noticeable at all in the bedroom and it would just be broken down into who enjoys getting fucked, doing the fucking, or both.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-20 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
but we are talking about topping and bottoming in yaoi, which is a completely different thing from the gay/bi community, and who tops and who bottoms has so much to do with what the characters look like.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-20 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Different Anon. If we consider that yaoi came to be as a feminist fantasy where women can subject their male peers to porn treatment they get in comics, we still get it. But! Over the years it evolved a lot, same as Japanese society and lots of media. So, I'd say that anon above is correct in the summary.

While I am weeping he's correct :P, since holy hell, gay dating scene is rid with these minefields. Everyone has their own preferences, same as in fiction and writing couples ie. one option can prevail. However, the amount of blokes wanting macho dudes because random sexism (not preference for such, just sexism - there is a difference where one says 'I like stereotypically masculine acting and looking people' and 'ALL FAGGY FAGS ARE WROOOONG, I WANT A REAL MAN!'.

As far as fantasies go - I am surprised that it's never the other way around - the older, taller, more dominative in real life bloke is not submissive in bed. But whelp.

And this has been written by a dude who loves power play and bondage same as his boyfriend but we switch. Of course, he's the tall, dainty and slim one with long hair and happy-go-lucky character while I am a raging, ginger midget - just to fill the stereotypes quota.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-20 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
idk considering the yaoi manga that is still getting released, it hasn't changed that much lmao. And tbh i'm glad bc size kink is best kink.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-22 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
SA. Heh, I also like this kink :D! Guess the thing that bothers me is not kinks or fantasies just the odd pressure to have them normative? So seme/uke dynamics are nice as a sexy thing but not when they are expected and universal.