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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-25 06:12 pm

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-01-26 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I just get frustrated because it so often comes down to Christians taking things that are central to Christianity, saying those things are central to Islam, and saying that makes Islam bad. I'd argue that Christianity has more of a fixation on sacrificing yourself for the greater glory of your god than Islam does.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Then I'm curious as to why it's mainly Muslims who are the ones who blow themselves up for Allah.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-01-26 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Flippantly, Christians are less likely to be in the room when the bomb goes off. Less flippantly, guns are more their style, epecially in the US where guns are in style generally.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
So you believe that the number of terrorist attacks committed by Christians in the name of their religion are on par with Muslims'?
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-01-26 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on who you consider a terrorist. ; )

Honestly, it's not current numbers I worry about; it's future numbers. I believe there are strains in current American thought that are entangled with radical Christianity in a way that could easily turn violent. All it takes is a spark. (Tell me you can't see Donald Trump's fanclub starting a war against another Muslim country for religious/economic reasons.)
Edited 2016-01-26 04:10 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Are you concerned there'll be a Christian equivalent to ISIS?
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-01-26 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Not per se, at least not in the near future. I think it'll have a lot more official backing and be able to phrame itself in terms that also appeal on non-religious grounds. (Like I said earlier, economics is a major motivator.) But I do think religion will play a part, and I think this stuff needs to be understood in more broad terms than just Islam in order to stop it from cropping up elsewhere.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, white Christian terrorists have caused so many more acts of terrorism than Muslims

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
When's the last time Christian terrorists pulled off something like the events in Paris?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
You wanna play the quantity v. quality game? Google some stats on mass shootings per year in the USA, they're scary.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
And it goes back to how many of those incidents are examples of Christian terrorism and whether or not any of them were carefully coordinated attacks carried out by multiple individuals.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
And in what way are they connected to the presumed religion of the shooters? Apples and oranges.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
On Daily Show, they posited that it's because Islam is a younger religion and that the time frame matches up with around when Christianity was doing the whole Inquisition thing.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
So they're basically admitting Islam in the modern age is the equivalent of where Christianity was hundreds of years ago. But say "Islam is medieval" and then you're called 'Islamophobic'.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
because Islamophobia has strong ties to racism and saying a culture/religion is "medieval" is about on par with saying a society is "primitive," which is, insulting and ridiculous. saying Islam is at the same stage as Christianity was isn't the same as saying it's medieval.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're whipping people for leaving the religion or dismissing attempts to criminalize child marriage as being "un-Islamic" then I'm going to call a spade a spade.

What is your definition for Islamophobia anyways? Does it cover all opposition to Islam?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 09:38 am (UTC)(link)
You're talking about a negligible amount of people when you consider Islam is the religion of over a billion people. Furthermore, terrorist issues in this case are so tightly bound to culture, poverty, and third-world countries. Christianity in poor, less educated countries is also nuts and yes there are Christian terrorists, Jewish terrorists, even Buddhist terrorists. You can't compare Christianity in rich, privileged, educated, developing countries to Islam in poor, struggling, developing countries.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool story. What's the Christian equivalent to ISIS?

Why do Muslims in developed countries leave to join ISIS? Jihadi John was British ffs.

Not to mention the pew polls where large numbers of Muslims support enforcing Sharia law and making it illegal to depict Mohammad.