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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-27 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #3311 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
You sound like you have some issues, OP.

Look, I've been bullied in school. Funny thing is, I get along with most of those people now, and it turned out that while I felt I was being bullied, they *also* had the feeling they were being bullied (while they only dimly remembered bullying me), and THEN it turned out that another kid apparently felt they had been bullied by me, and I never would have seen it that way!

I don't know about your history, but mostly the group dynamics at schools are multi-layered and complicated, and it's hard to assign good and evil just like that.
Now this is not meant to blame the victims. It's to avoid stereotypization of "culprits", which is what you are doing.

My advice: get some perspective if you're already out of school and still feeling victimized. Wallowing in your righteous suffering may feel good for now but it will make you a bitter asshole in time, so get some therapy or an equivalent, do some sports or other movement-based stuff outside in the sun, and face your former bullies in a safe environment.

If you're still in school, hang in there, it'll pass. Seek counseling or other attention from teachers if you feel something has to be done about it. If they can't help you, there are two probable causes.

a) they're irresponsible uncaring asshats (but just look at the boy. he's fat, and probably because he wants attention from his mon. I hear she's recently divorced. that just makes him act up and kids will turn on him <- actual quote)

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b) (in school scenarios much more likely from my experience) they feel that you would not profit from their intervention but actually be targeted more, OR they feel that they can't help you because the actual bullying part is very minor and the problem is that your low self-esteem and general teen-ness makes you much more vulnerable to it, i.e. you're 80% victimizing yourself, in which case the best course would again be to seek couseling, therapy, distraction, and not intervention that calls out others.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
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I want to know how you define bullying, because I can't help but wonder if your talking about something rather different because bullying is not something that may be perceived as such depending on the person.

I mean, for me ignoring someone or making some comments/jokes that may not be nice isn't bullying (though it may be part of it, but not on its own).

Outright harassment and/or public humiliation that may involve physical "jokes" that can be even be dangerous it how I define bullying.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-29 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
That's the far end of the bullying scale. More low-key harrassment and ostracization can also qualify as bullying depending on the frequency and extent.

And a lot of bullying, even the worse manifestations, are written off as "not that bad" by both the kids involved and the adults around them. That's a big part of how you get shit like teens being driven to suicide by their peers in the first place - everyone who should have stepped in and done something about it wrote it off as just kids being kids.