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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-30 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #3314 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3314 ⌋

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Why I'm opposed to Lammily, in a nutshell:

http://dragondicks.tumblr.com/post/103165229060/whats-up-with-the-lammily-thing-ive-seen-a
http://dragondicks.tumblr.com/post/113175695365/so-in-effectlammily-was-more-or-less-a-failure-at
http://purplemonkfish.tumblr.com/post/103144931351/regarding-lammily
http://ohbeesneeze.tumblr.com/post/138223021343/the-funniest-thing-about-the-new-barbie
http://oak23.tumblr.com/post/131376617475/none-of-these-unhemmed-glued-together-outfit-packs
http://neon-genesis-evandoglion.tumblr.com/post/78778978995/make-lammily-a-rocker-give-her-some-ripped-jeans

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK, none of that is really an argument to have that doll come off the market completely though. Like some of those suggestions could even be put towards future dolls and accessories? This guy was not coming out with all the resources Barbie has, he needed one product he could sell to people and he needed to make sure it would sell before going further with it.

Like I don't really like the doll myself, I already said as much, but I think if other people like it then that's great and they should buy it. Barbie SHOULD have competition in the market, Barbie not having competition makes it hard to get the company to ever change. But when there's more competition change happens a lot quicker.

I love fantasy dolls, I'm not arguing against that at all, I am saying that if the market has room for both, why not have both?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're opposed to Lammily because Tumblr told you to be.

Cute.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
You didn't actually read any of those links, did you?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I did. You hate Lammily because Tumblr hates Lammily, and that's fucking hilarious.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, I was right. You didn't read them.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I did. There is nothing in any of those links that gives a reason for hating it other than "not up to Tumblrina standards."

Your move. She run over your dog while fucking your mother and burning down your house?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Really? Your prior comments suggest to me that you are dismissing the content of those links based solely on the website they're hosted on, as if anyone who agrees with anything posted on tumblr must by definition be some sort of crazy SJW.

If I had linked to a bunch New York Times articles that supported my view on a certain topic, would you claim that I held that view "because the New York Times told me to"? Somehow I doubt it.

And by the way, I wouldn't say I hate Lammily. Hate is a rather strong word for something so insignificant. But I do find the ideology behind her creation irritating, and it would give me a sick sense of satisfaction if the dolls ceased production. It's petty, I know that. That's why I've posted this opinion to Fandom Secrets.

You seem very angry about this. Perhaps you should go take a nap.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
If I had linked to a bunch New York Times articles that supported my view on a certain topic, would you claim that I held that view "because the New York Times told me to"?

Yep, I would have. Getting your opinion from one site is fucking stupid.

You seem very angry about this. Perhaps you should go take a nap.

Says someone who is so angry at a hunk of plastic that they want it to not exist anymore. lol.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
What you don't understand is that it's not a matter of "getting" an opinion from one specific source. I merely linked to posts that back up the opinions I formed by myself after reading up on the genesis of Lammily and its creator's views of what a fashion doll should be. That those posts all happened to come from tumblr is irrelevant.

Says someone who is so angry at a hunk of plastic that they want it to not exist anymore. lol.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm a lot more upset about this than I actually am. Haven't you ever looked at something you found annoying and thought yourself "Gee, this thing sure is annoying. I wish it would go away." ?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
That those posts all happened to come from tumblr is irrelevant.

Nah, I'd say that all those posts happened to come from Tumblr is a clue that you need to get out more.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm a lot more upset about this than I actually am. Haven't you ever looked at something you found annoying and thought yourself "Gee, this thing sure is annoying. I wish it would go away." ?

Nope. When I find something annoying, I tune it out and stop paying attention to it. You oughtta try it sometime.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Okay. This is clearly a waste of my time since you're more interested in spewing ad hominem than engaging in anything resembling reasonable debate.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
You have your underoos in a wad over a doll. Reasonable debate was never a possibility.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
And once again, you're attacking me based on an assumed strong emotional response that I haven't actually had.

El oh el.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, I'm attacking you based on a ridiculous position that you've already admitted is petty. lol.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it is indeed petty. It's also not something I'm especially emotionally invested in, despite your claims to the contrary.

Finding something annoying =/= being angry about it.

It's only a ridiculous position if you are of the opinion that no one should ever entertain petty thoughts.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
You don't care so much you had to make a secret about it. And then vehemently defend said secret with links to Tumblrina screeds. LMFAO.

It's only a ridiculous position if you are of the opinion that no one should ever entertain petty thoughts.

Or it's ridiculous because it's a stupid thing to get mad over (which you are clearly mad, no matter how much you deny it).

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
I never said I didn't care. Obviously I do care on some level. But caring about something on some level does not necessarily translate to having SUPER STRONG EMOTIONZ OMG about it. Expressing a negative opinion about something and explaining why you have that negative opinion upon being asked is not the same as being super emotionally invested (or "vehement", as you've put it).

So no, I'm not mad. Mildly irritated? Yes. Mad? Nah. But you're free to believe otherwise, if that's what makes you happy. :)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Expressing a negative opinion about something and explaining why you have that negative opinion upon being asked is not the same as being super emotionally invested (or "vehement", as you've put it).

I'd say that's the definition of being emotionally invested. If you weren't emotionally ibvested, you wouldn't bother making a secret in the first place, nevermind word-vomiting all over the place about it.

Yeah, you're mad. At a doll. So mad you want it to not exist. And that's fucking funny.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
"If you weren't emotionally ibvested, you wouldn't bother making a secret in the first place"

Making a secret really doesn't take that much effort. I had an opinion. I posted it to an anonymous forum because I was curious to see how people on said forum would react to said opinion. When asked why I held said opinion, I provided links that supported it. None of that requires any strong emotional investment.

Participating in a pointless internet argument to stave off boredom doesn't require any strong emotional investment either.

"And that's fucking funny."

Not quite as funny as you.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
None of that requires any strong emotional investment.

Perhaps you're confused by the term "emotional investment" because Tumblr hasn't told you what to think yet?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
LOL.

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Re: OP

[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-01-31 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
For what it's worth, I agree with you. And Tumblr was where I'd even heard about Lammily in the first place. And I find that doll hideous. As does the creator's reasons behind it. Ick.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
http://oak23.tumblr.com/post/131376617475/none-of-these-unhemmed-glued-together-outfit-packs

For the love of god please tell me that's not real merchandise for a doll... because it looks like shit I could make with 0 sewing experience and cheap materials. When I was 10.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] annethecatdetective 2016-01-31 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Ew, those do look even worse than the original boring clothes. And they're charging over ten bucks for them?

Ugh, yeah, that's... that's just bad.