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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-06 03:42 pm

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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-06 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
The history of law. I'm fascinated by how our laws developed the way they did. I took this one course in law school which was the history of legal theory, tracing the development of different theories of law and how they shaped court decisions. One of my favorite courses.
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-02-06 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Tell me your favorite anecdote or history of a law! Or lots of them. That's really cool.
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-06 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly a lot of it is out of my head at the moment because of studying for the bar.

One interesting thing (to me anyway) I do remember is how much the definition of freedom has changed. It used to be that courts were really big on the freedom to contract. But they saw any contract at all basically as free. So, for example, a government restriction on employer's ability to pressure employees into signing really bad contracts was struck down because it was seen by the court as restricting the freedom of the employees to contract. Today we'd consider what the employers wanted to do as duress and say that because the two parties came to the table unequally it wasn't a free contract at all.
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-02-06 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
studying for the bar
GOOD LUCK!

Also I love when legal conceptions of Big Concepts change and popular/historical understanding changes around it.
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-06 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
That really interests me too. And I think in order to really understand cases you have to understand the point of view of the judge and the things they just assumed as true. And you have do understand that the same words may be used, but they don't always mean the same thing then that they do today.
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-02-06 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
And I think in order to really understand cases you have to understand the point of view of the judge and the things they just assumed as true

Historiography for the win! But for real if I tried to go to law school I'd be sucked down the history rabbit hole in a hot second. Hell, I'm in grad school for education rn and am consistently sucked down the history rabbit hole here...
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-07 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I minored in history in college. I only didn't major in it because I wasn't really interested in writing huge papers for every subject and my college had a criminal justice major. History and sociology are two of my biggest interests, especially when they intersect. Why people do what they do and why they've done it the way they have done it has always interested me. I often buy books that are the history of various areas of the law or various social movements.
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-02-07 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
My father instilled a borderline obsessive love of history in me when I was really small, and I'm currently engaged to a history professor who will fall down these rabbit holes with me, which is a blessing, because I'll glad read about the history of the fork or the glass eyeball or whatever. I considered a history major too, and if I'd gone to a different school (my school's history program, I learned the hard way, was pretty lacking), it may well have happened.
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-07 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
It was the same for me. My dad's a historian and history teacher. So I came by it naturally.

I want the history of everything. I once audited a history of science course (which was mostly a history of scientific theory course) even though I wasn't taking any science courses because I was still interested in learning the history of science.
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-02-07 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Many years ago, my now fiance joked about taking me to a bicycle museum and I was like NO LET'S GO. I'll read through a history of anything.

Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-06 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds absolutely fascinating. I got to briefly touch on the history of law in my College course (wrote an essay on Environmental Legislation in Canada) and it was really interesting. What constantly amazes me is how the implementation of even small laws go on to shape the culture and direction of countries.
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-06 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, completely. The law both shapes history and is shaped by the mores and beliefs of the time. And lawyers, particularly those who are involved in cutting edge things and pushing for rights, need to know how to balance pushing the law in the right direction with representing their individual client who may actually be best served by the lawyer working within the law as it is now.

It was a great class. It was mostly a discussion class, which was a lot of fun. It required a ton of reading, but it was worth it. Most of us in the class were interested in social justice areas of the law, so it was interesting to think about the history of the law and how it has been used to both help and hurt people's rights.

Like, for example, the history of labor laws and how laws that were originally supposed to benefit and help employees ended up being co-opted by employers and interpreted by conservative courts in ways that maintained the status quo as much as possible.

Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-07 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds like a really excellent College class. Especially for a trainee lawyer (good luck with the exam btw!).

Sorry this is a brief response, btw. Would love to talk more about this but really have to go to bed!
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-07 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
It was actually a law school class. But it really was great.

Sleep well. I'm going to bed soon myself.

Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-07 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
SA Will check back on this tomorrow to see if you've answered or not.

Did you ever touch on Russian legal history in your course?
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-07 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
No, sadly it was focused strictly on American legal history. It was a law school course, not a college course. I would have loved to take an international version of the course if it had been offered.

Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-07 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Caught this just on my way off!

Ah, I see. I did actually know you were at law school, as I've been an anon on here for a while. Sorry for the mix up with words there. I didn't mean to cause any offence.
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Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-07 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, no offense at all.

Re: What's your side interest you love a chance to talk about?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-07 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh good. :) Have a good night!