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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-07 03:31 pm

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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that really depends on what you think constitutes a horror game. Some people think BioShock is horror, although I personally don't really.

Alien Isolation is pretty... Outlast-ish. There's Outlast DLC but I'm not sure anyone has done a full LP of it? There are of course, the horror staples like the Silent Hill and Resident Evil series, which almost certainly have a billion LPs each. The Walking Dead series might be considered horror, although it's really more on the adventure rpg side of things and not a whole lot like Until Dawn.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2016-02-07 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Mostly the stuff that's busy scaring and/or creeping you out almost non-stop. I get a kick out of jump scares, weird faces, and similar horror cliches. Although an interesting plot is always a nice bonus. From what I know, I wouldn't classify BioShock as pure horror, though I might watch it for the story (I do watch non-horror games, too - my favourites are point-and-click adventures, e.g. Back to the Future and the Sherlock Holmes series).

Thanks so much! Definitely giving Alien Isolation a try, then. I'm not sure where to start with Silent Hill - there are a lot of different games? And I think I was planning on watching Resident Evil, yes.

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Try to find an LP of the first Silent Hill game. It is arguably the most horror-oriented of all of them. Also very atmospheric
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] a_potato 2016-02-07 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to pop in and second Alien Isolation. It turned me into a wreck at points, and it's also very...aesthetically pleasing and satisfying. The space scenery is absolutely stunning.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It really is great, and as an Alien fan its dogged insistence on being as retrofuturistic as its source material was quite endearing.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] a_potato 2016-02-08 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
That's one of the things I like about it, too. It doesn't just make it feel like it fits within the series; it also makes it feel more real, more grounded. And the tactile nature of certain aspects of the gameplay (the levers, the maintenance jack, the radio tuner...) is incredibly effective at making you feel like you're actually there.

Gah, I want to play it again now, haha.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-08 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I do love how you had to throw the switches and stuff yourself! It made for a more tense experience, too, because things weren't instant -- and sometimes you had only seconds to shut a door on the bug.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] a_potato 2016-02-08 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oh absolutely, that's why I mentioned the radio tuner! There are times when you have to use it to get through a door, and she's just a corridor away, and you're thinking, "ain't nobody got time for this!" Great way to simulate that "c'mon, c'mon, c'mon" feeling.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
A:I is like Outlast like a bowl of yams is like a bowl of mashed potatoes.

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Thematically they are nothing alike.

Superficially both are FPS games where you are greatly outclassed by all of your enemies and usually the best course of action is running away or hiding from the superior threat. If you like an oppressive atmosphere where you feel pretty helpless at times, they're pretty similar. Oh! And on that note, SOMA is good for this also. I forgot to rec it.

It's not like Silent Hill is much like Resident Evil, but on the surface level they have a lot of the same mechanics.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
nah

nah

i feel you

but nah

Outlast is an Amnesia clone. "I have no hands and I must scream." You're an utter wuss who cannot defend yourself. (maybe if the protagonist would PUT DOWN THE FUCKING CAMERA) You spend the entire game running and hiding like a ninny without even thinking to pick up something to defend yourself with -- and it's not like these are mutant duckfaces who'll fuck you up, they're generally just regular humans. (Well, except that huge guy who rips heads off.) Condemned had a lot of the same "insane, evil humans living in the dark" vibe (which admittedly is why I liked Outlast a bit more than most Amnesia clones) and that game let you hit them in the face with a pipe.

Alien: Isolation is most emphatically not that -- in fact that was a major selling point for me. You actively have a hand in your own self-defense and agency. Yes, your weapons are largely useless against the bug, but you still have weapons (and they have value against the lesser enemies you confront) and you still have equipment -- equipment that YOU made! If I were to compare A:I to anything, I'd say it's a mix of System Shock (up to and including a 451 door code!) with more traditional survival horror elements, such as static save points.

SOMA is very, very good, though, and I'd recommend it.

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
All of this is true, but I think that the difference between them when you're watching an LP sort of becomes... negligible?

From a player standpoint, trying to get through Outlast was infuriating because I have no patience when creepy dudes are everywhere and like... why can't I break a window and escape into the night? Why the fuck did you bother sending an email from inside the facility, DLC guy? Are you stupid? Is everyone in this game stupid?

But when you have an LP the agency as a player is far less important than whether or not the atmosphere feels interesting. You can't really get a sense of how the game physically feels to play, but you can get a sense of how tense it is or ...isn't.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Meh. I think the two games are different thematically enough though. A:I is more sci-fi -- in fact IMO it shares a lot of the same vibe as System Shock 2. Outlast is closer to something like Condemned. And just like Condemned, it has a stupid ending.

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I would have said the ending of Outlast was more like FEAR than anything, but I guess there are a bunch of valid comparisons to be made.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see the FEAR comparison at all.

Especially not FEAR 2, jesus

SPOILER TERRITORY AHOY

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
looooooooooooooooooooooool well not FEAR2 obviously, but the whole "pursued by psychic badass/ghost that is luring you into releasing it" is ...well, it's pretty much FEAR in a nutshell.

As I understand it that was also the way Outlast generally went but in a slightly less spectacular fashion.
Edited 2016-02-07 22:55 (UTC)
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Re: SPOILER TERRITORY AHOY

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Problem with that is that Outlast's primary antagonist turned out to be a bunch of really stupid bullshit. Made me so angry.

Re: SPOILER TERRITORY AHOY

[personal profile] herpymcderp - 2016-02-07 23:04 (UTC) - Expand
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] caerbannog 2016-02-08 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Neither my friend or I could finish Isolation. I got all the dlc and everything but I can't handle being on edge all the time!

I thought amnesia was pretty scary. There's a sequel now too?

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-08 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
I got frustrated with Isolation, not because of being on edge, but because of the hideous amounts of bugs in that game. It was really bad.

Maybe they've patched them by now, but it was nigh unplayable on release.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] caerbannog 2016-02-08 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
I can't remember if I got it on release or not but I haven't had any bugs or heard of any. You're not mixing it up with the bug ridden disaster that was released a few years prior? The one where you didn't even get to play as Ripley it a descendent of her?

Not discounting you, just recalling how impressed I was with the smoothness and AI

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-08 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
No. Nooooooo. Not Colonial Marines.

I got it the day of release. I spent thirty minutes trying to get past a certain cutscene where a character was supposed to open a vent, but if you tried to skip the cutscene the AI would freak out and forget to do it. And then you couldn't progress.

Or in the very beginning sequence there was a scene where, in order to progress you have to talk to everyone on the ship. They were supposed to be in specific places but the game would only load them in when you had asked another character where to find them. So what ended up happening if you were looking for two of them at once, is they would phase in and out of reality, reappearing in a place another character had just been because ... reasons?

Shit was buggy AS FUCK immediately post-release. This was all within the first half hour of the game.

I eventually had to put it down when, in the middle of a firefight scene about... 4 hours in?, the item that was supposed to load in in order to open a door and let you escape would just. Not. Load in.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] caerbannog 2016-02-08 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
:o they must have fixed most of them then since? I've not had anything like that.

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-09 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Entirely possible. I haven't touched it in a long time.

Re: Horror video game recs?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-08 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Ever notice how you're the only one who runs into these problems? Because literally nobody else had issues with AI on day one. Including me, and I run into alllll the bugs.

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-09 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
"always"?

What are you even on about?