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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-07 03:31 pm

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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
A:I is like Outlast like a bowl of yams is like a bowl of mashed potatoes.

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Thematically they are nothing alike.

Superficially both are FPS games where you are greatly outclassed by all of your enemies and usually the best course of action is running away or hiding from the superior threat. If you like an oppressive atmosphere where you feel pretty helpless at times, they're pretty similar. Oh! And on that note, SOMA is good for this also. I forgot to rec it.

It's not like Silent Hill is much like Resident Evil, but on the surface level they have a lot of the same mechanics.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
nah

nah

i feel you

but nah

Outlast is an Amnesia clone. "I have no hands and I must scream." You're an utter wuss who cannot defend yourself. (maybe if the protagonist would PUT DOWN THE FUCKING CAMERA) You spend the entire game running and hiding like a ninny without even thinking to pick up something to defend yourself with -- and it's not like these are mutant duckfaces who'll fuck you up, they're generally just regular humans. (Well, except that huge guy who rips heads off.) Condemned had a lot of the same "insane, evil humans living in the dark" vibe (which admittedly is why I liked Outlast a bit more than most Amnesia clones) and that game let you hit them in the face with a pipe.

Alien: Isolation is most emphatically not that -- in fact that was a major selling point for me. You actively have a hand in your own self-defense and agency. Yes, your weapons are largely useless against the bug, but you still have weapons (and they have value against the lesser enemies you confront) and you still have equipment -- equipment that YOU made! If I were to compare A:I to anything, I'd say it's a mix of System Shock (up to and including a 451 door code!) with more traditional survival horror elements, such as static save points.

SOMA is very, very good, though, and I'd recommend it.

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
All of this is true, but I think that the difference between them when you're watching an LP sort of becomes... negligible?

From a player standpoint, trying to get through Outlast was infuriating because I have no patience when creepy dudes are everywhere and like... why can't I break a window and escape into the night? Why the fuck did you bother sending an email from inside the facility, DLC guy? Are you stupid? Is everyone in this game stupid?

But when you have an LP the agency as a player is far less important than whether or not the atmosphere feels interesting. You can't really get a sense of how the game physically feels to play, but you can get a sense of how tense it is or ...isn't.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Meh. I think the two games are different thematically enough though. A:I is more sci-fi -- in fact IMO it shares a lot of the same vibe as System Shock 2. Outlast is closer to something like Condemned. And just like Condemned, it has a stupid ending.

Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I would have said the ending of Outlast was more like FEAR than anything, but I guess there are a bunch of valid comparisons to be made.
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Re: Horror video game recs?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see the FEAR comparison at all.

Especially not FEAR 2, jesus

SPOILER TERRITORY AHOY

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
looooooooooooooooooooooool well not FEAR2 obviously, but the whole "pursued by psychic badass/ghost that is luring you into releasing it" is ...well, it's pretty much FEAR in a nutshell.

As I understand it that was also the way Outlast generally went but in a slightly less spectacular fashion.
Edited 2016-02-07 22:55 (UTC)
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Re: SPOILER TERRITORY AHOY

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-07 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Problem with that is that Outlast's primary antagonist turned out to be a bunch of really stupid bullshit. Made me so angry.

Re: SPOILER TERRITORY AHOY

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-02-07 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like it could have been way worse. I just found it kind of lazy the way it was done. The DLC was... a tiny bit more interesting, but only marginally.

I sort of left that game feeling like it was mediocre but the next one could either be really cool or the worst shit ever.