[ SECRET POST #3328 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3328 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

10. http://i.imgur.com/zlnTOcc.jpg

[badass_tiger]

I was extremely confused by this secret right until the last sentence. I was like 'People don't like headcanons about gay relationships?? What planet are you on?'

RPF gets a bad name because it has so many tinhatters shoving their fanfiction in other fans', and sometimes even the celebrities', faces. Besides, gut feelings are completely internal. Just because you have a gut feeling about something doesn't mean other people do.

[blitzwing]

Couldn't read it; not enough contrast.

[(Anonymous)]

Can anyone please do a transcript of this?

TRANSCRIPT

[loracarol]

You know that feelings you get when you're convinced these two people either are together or have been in the past? When something in their body language or their reactions to each other clue you in? And you don't even know the people in question?

It annoys me so much that fandom ignores that gut feeling, the same feeling they are basing just about any other rumour on, the moment it's about two men or two women.

The moment you suggest these two people of the same gender have shared at the very least some kisses if not orgasms you're a crazy shipper and a creep and you should be ashamed of yourself because omfg RPF is so wrong!!

("rumour" is spelled that way in the secret.)

[(Anonymous)]

This is just my anecdotal experience but as much as I can be a little uncomfortable with how people ship RPF I think the het RPF shippers have been indistinguishable from the slash ones I run into in terms of creepy tinhat proportions.

[(Anonymous)]

Human relationships are not clear cut. Closeness does not necessarily equal that they are knocking boots.

To outside observers the intricacies of two people's relationship are not going to be clear. And, more importantly, it's nobody else's business.

That's what drives it over the line from private fantasy to creepy, OP. Speculation and insistence about their real relationship is creepy.

+10000

[(Anonymous)]

Even the more "normal" forms of speculating about celebrity relationships, like tabloids, are creepy to me. Just because someone does something public for a living doesn't automatically make it your business who they're banging, or what genitalia they like, if any.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah a lot of people's "gut feelings" about other people's relationships is often wrong.

And I in general don't understand why people think it's their business (but I also barely care about celeb personal lives, I just want to see what they're performing in and that's it.)

[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

I've seen several instances of (what seemed to be) good friends distancing because the harassment from "fans" who wanted them to admit their supposed relationship became too much.

Why those fans don't get that it isn't their business and that they're being creepy as hell?

[feotakahari]

I don't care who you ship, but please don't drag social justice into it. A ship is just a ship, regardless of whatever "gut feeling" you may claim to.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm mostly fine with RPF and will come out in defense of it when need be. But when people start insisting that their "gut feeling" about a real person is more accurate than that person's own account of who they are and who they love, that's when real person shipping gets creepy and invasive and rude.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, you: crazy shipper is on the money. Also projecting. But most of all: WHY NO READABILITY? My eyes bleed now, together with my brain.

[(Anonymous)]

Join Dan and Phil fandom. >.> You won't feel unwelcome there.

[nightscale]

Real life doesn't work like fiction or fanfic, like at all. And relationships you only see on a surface level you really can't accurately judge.

That being said I don't actually have a problem with RPF, especially when the shippers are just shipping it like they would a fictional pair of characters and are having fun with it. The tinhatters though, scare me.

[(Anonymous)]

mmm...no, OP, I can't say as I have ever had that feeling. regardless of whether or not tabloids or tinhats are trying to smoosh two people together, I can honestly say I have never felt like I "just know" that they totally did it/are doing it/would do it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the (mostly) het shipping in the tabloids is just as gross and weird.

[darkmanifest]

But why do you have to bring your gut feelings into RPF shipping? That makes it seem like you need your ship of real people validated as something more than just a personal fantasy of yours. Also that is the most obnoxious font I have ever seen.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's delusional to see chemistry between characters but when the writers have continually said no, they're not going there and act lowkey homophobic, I think shippers are getting their hopes up on something that's never going to happen in text.

[(Anonymous)]

whoops missed that RPF mention because of the stupid font

lol it's creepy when people insist people a guy/girl must be fucking because they've been seen together too

[gobbledigook]

I get it. When you do this in regards to a possible past gay relationship, you either get called out for having slash googles or feel bad for it without anybody having to say anything.

Also I was totally feeling this with that black guy in the animated Sinbad movie.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, but when has a popular RPS m/m ship EVER turned out to be true, regardless of all the "gut feelings" of its fans? Elijah/Dom? Nope. Bradley/Colin? Nope. Richard/Lee? Nope. Jared/Jenson? Nope. Those dudes from 1D or from Glee? Nope.

Maybe try again when two white male actors actually DO come out of the closest and publicly state they fell in love on-set, because until then all these gut feelings of tin-hatters insisting that there's TOTALLY something going on between their favourite white male actors have led to jack-shit.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, the fact you could use that font without irony tells me a lot.

Reality is reality, and I advise you to look hard at how you fashion your reality model as you mature. You do not know what you think you know. The glimpses into celebrity life you receive are not reality. The gut feeling you are deriving is nothing more than your internalized fantasy based on your hopes, fed by their friendship and the game they play fashioning a playful, friendly comradeship for consumption by their fanbase. That is all. You know exactly zero about how they behave in true privacy, one-on-one. And you never, ever will. Because they probably don't either, anymore. They are celebrities and very likely don't have access to their true selves when not alone anymore. They probably find it excruciatingly difficult to trust anyone at all.

And you are one very good reason why.

[likeadeuce]

WHAT is happening in this secret?

No.

[(Anonymous)]

If you have a "gut feeling" about any real people's relationship, keep it to your damn self. Even if they are your friends. If they are having a relationship and they haven't let you know, there might be a good reason. If they aren't having a relationship, you've made everything awkward and now they may be self-conscious about being around each other - congratulations, you may have diminished a friendship! Lots of people have insecurities about the way they relate to others socially, your "just knowing" doesn't trump their feelings.