[ SECRET POST #3328 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3328 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Justice Scalia is dead.

[(Anonymous)]

The Republicans have nixing abortion as a core party issue. That is to say, an issue they prize above all else, with Hillary out of the WHite House as a close second. Hillary will have keeping Hillary in the White House as her core issue. With all the skeletons in her closet, that means there is ample scope to make a deal on the issue. She can put up a half hearted effort followed by appointing a right wing candidate to this guy and RBG's place in exchange for them dropping their efforts on the latter policy.

In short, horse trading to keep herself in power. Hillary has proven that she will do that, because her plank is "Hillary ought to be president". If you think she won't sell women up the river for that cause then you do not know Hillary Clinton. Vote Sanders or Vote Republican, but don't vote Hillary and expect not to get Republican.

Re: Justice Scalia is dead.

[(Anonymous)]

Maintaining abortion is as much a core value for the Democratic Party as nixing it is for the Republicans. Even if she was 100% amoral, trading away abortion would not make sense for her, because it would lose her the support of the Democratic Party.

Also I would point out that - whether or not she said the specific word in a debate - Clinton has been on the record a long, long time about being in favor of abortion. Her husband was in favor of it in the 1990s, she's been in favor of it just as long. Has she been as outspoken about it as we might like? No, but to say that her position on it is unknown, she's absolutely not.

Re: Justice Scalia is dead.

[(Anonymous)]

Hillary is not loyal to the Democratic party, that is where you have the problem. The democratic party exists to serve her, as far as she is concerned, once she scores the presidency then there is nothing further they can offer her. That is her goal in and of itself. Plus she is savvy, like I said she'll make a half-hearted attempt at not doing so straight away in order to save face and make it look like she wasn't horse trading, and that will be that. And you people will fall for it, because you cannot conceive of Hillary using the Democrat party for her own ends. You can spot it a mile away in a Republican, but you are blind to a Democrat doing the same thing. That is so damn infuriating.

Re: Justice Scalia is dead.

[(Anonymous)]

Even if Hillary were a 100% amoral sociopath who cared about nothing but power she would need the support of the Democratic Party. Nominating someone who was anti-choice would 100% lose her that support. No matter what kind of a front she put up. She still needs to be re-nominated, she still needs Democratic votes in the Senate and House to get anything done. Sure, she'll pander to pick up marginal Republican voters, but that's a completely different thing from totally abandoning the most basic tenets of the party. Because you can pander without losing the support of your own party. But you can't appoint a pro-life Supreme Court nominee and retain the support of the Democratic Party. And if there were such a situation where Hillary had no need of political support from the Democratic Party, what need would she have of support from the Republicans.

Fuck, Bill Clinton - who is literally Hillary's husband, and who spent a huge amount of time trying to triangulate and appeal to Republicans and compromise in the 90s - still nominated Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer, both of whom have been rock-solid votes on abortion. If it makes so much sense for Hillary to appoint pro-life nominees, how the hell did Bill manage to avoid it? Like, literally the only reason that Hillary would nominate a pro-life candidate is if she was being evil for the sake of being evil, like a fucking Captain Planet villain or something. That's not how human beings work. Even fucking politicians. It is fucking insane.

Re: Justice Scalia is dead.

[(Anonymous)]

Bullshit. Hillary could and would nominate and anti-abortionite and all you die hards would do was just through abortion on the pile of things to ignore and still call her a lesser evil. You'd grumble but still insist we support her, because that is what you've been doing all along. I for one am fed up ignoring her sins.