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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-13 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3328 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3328 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say a lot of this is true but I just have to add, I don't think people in the 90s-00s were all that better behaved, it's just that fandom was more self contained back then and wank only went so far. Add to that teenagers who were paranoid about stranger danger/staying anonymous and things had a tendency to go away.

Fandom is just too large to contain anymore, for better or worse it's everywhere now. Before it was in private chats, in locked journals, in small web forums. Now it's on tumblr with hundreds of thousands of notes, on twitter where the creators also hang out (back in the day we really did not have such easy access to creators except for maybe a few) and it's on facebook where your mom, your friends and everyone you know hangs out.

I feel like the largeness of fandom/the nature of social media has turned fandom into a shouting match. There were always crazies but now it's like the crazies have too much support/attention for things to calm down.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-14 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Plus in communities there were mods/owners. This could get kind of weird if the mods were weird, like when the tru-fans staged a takeover of Danny Phantom fandom by taking mod control of all the major fandom spaces and threatening to ban anyone found posting elsewhere. But it also meant under sane management fandoms could be kept more peaceful.

With fandom spaces like tumblr, it's based around who can shout louder. You 'win' by your point getting more points with likes and reblogs.

Like lets say a creator is having a bad day. One of those days where you want to watch the world burn. They go on their forum and see someone has posted something negative about their work, and they fire off a "Gokuluvr47 is a donkey's rear end. Fuck u." Ten minutes later they realize they were being a jerk, they delete it. They can delete any other comments dogpiling Gokuluvr47. They can say "Hey, I said some things about someone when I was in a bad mood, I didn't mean it. Anyone caught harassing them because of it is going to get a strike against them. Cut it out." And there's a good chance that unless some people are really really dedicated to that wank, it's going to blow over.

Now lets say they post "Gokuluvr47 is a donkey's rear end. Fuck u." on tumblr, or twitter. The genie is out of the bottle now. In that ten minutes it's been reblogged/retweeted a couple hundred times. People are harassing Gokuluvr47, people are harassing the creator for being a jerk to a random fan. They can try posting the apology, is it going to get as much traction? Is it going to fan the flames of "They apologized, drop it" Vs. "Oh sure, now that people are mad suddenly they didn't mean it and they're trying to manipulate us into dropping it. Bet if it had all been positive they'd still be sticking to their donkey's rear position."

It's a different breed of wank entirely. Add that to the natural human tendency to believe quantity over quality (10 facebook posts from your relatives that drinking cold water causes liquid fat to congeal in your arteries and will kill you is more believable than one post from the American Heart Association going "That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works!" ) and the conditions are always right for a perfect wank storm.