[ SECRET POST #3329 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3329 ⌋

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Comments

[loracarol]

Personally, I'm just waiting until the other two movies to come out to see what's a plot hole, and what's a dangling plot thread that'll be resolved in a later film.

Though, some of the things people call 'plot holes' are things I don't agree should be called that? Like, people asking how those bounty hunters found the Millennium Falcon so quickly - Han said it himself, he was looking for it, and he found it, was it so hard to believe other people might be doing the same?

Or the whole "where did the First Order come from" thing, like, did people really believe that killing the emperor would cause the entire empire to just ~magically collapse~?

[philstar22]

I agree. Plot holes can be subjective. Because people disagree. And sometimes they are coincidences that are likely but not completely impossible. Some people call those plot holes, but I say they aren't because they could happen and that sort of coincidence is kind of necessary for a lot of movies to keep the plot moving. It isn't a plot hole to me if it is possible that it could happen.

[loracarol]

I saw someone complaining about how the whole First Order/Resistance/Government thing was a plothole (i.e. why was there all three? Why wasn't it just First Order vs. Resistance) and it was like

you do realize that this was almost literally what was going on in France during WWII, right? You had the French government, the German government that was in charge, and you had the French resistance. I didn't see why it was a ~plothole~ that it was the same with space nazis.

[(Anonymous)]

Considering that the Empire and the First Order are basically set up as Space Nazis (despite us knowing next to nothing about their policies other than "take over all the planets"), it isn't exactly out of the realm of possibilities to believe that killing the emperor would cause the empire to collapse. Once all the high ranking Nazis were out of the way, everything kinda crumbled. And FO is basically Neos.

[loracarol]

Yeah, but the IRL Nazi's were only in power for what, 10 years or so*? Plus, they were defeated in a war, and the vacuum of power was filled by the victors.

Meanwhile, Palpatine was in charge for at least twenty-three years**, and was defeated by a (relatively) small group of rebels. Once they were defeated, there was a vacuum of power that someone could easily step into, given that it didn't appear that the rebels had the manpower to do so themselves. It would make sense to me, then, that even if a lot of the Empire crumbled, after the Emperor died, that someone would be able to step into that vacuum, and take control of whatever was left, especially given the amount of time it's seemingly been between RoTJ and TFA.

* It existed in 1919, but Hitler didn't become chancellor until 1933, war ended 12 years later

** Based on Luke and Leia's RoTJ age according to this site.

[(Anonymous)]

umm... you think germany lost the war because the leaders were dead? Actually, a great big chunk of the male population were dead and/or POWs already when that happened, and the eastern front was hell and, oh, US carpet bombing had completely leveled a few major towns like the one I live in.
So going by that comparison if the Rebels had not only destroyed the death star but also half of coruscant and some other imperial planets and maybe another base then I'd say it was likely that killing the emperor would suffice as a final straw.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally, I'm just waiting until the other two movies to come out to see what's a plot hole, and what's a dangling plot thread that'll be resolved in a later film.

Right!? +1. Just because you didn't get all the answers you wanted in the first film doesn't mean it's inconsistent with plotholes. There's still two more movies to go. Come on.