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⌈ Secret Post #3329 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with the dyslexic tweeter, tbh. It's not usually used in the sense of "wow you're not paying attention or even trying" but to sound like "you'd have to be so stupid to struggle with reading." Which isn't always true, is a big part of the stigma associated with not being able to read and makes it more unlikely to seek help trying yet again to learn.

I think in some forms of useage, this insult could be like calling someone a retard. It's "harmless fun" to the insulter but there are real people who are hurt by these attitudes being reinforced in life.

I think the guy replying (Wheaton) maybe missed what the guy was trying to say and just took the opportunity to mock him, which seems like a smartass thing to do rather than anything else.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not usually used in the sense of "wow you're not paying attention or even trying" but to sound like "you'd have to be so stupid to struggle with reading." Which isn't always true, is a big part of the stigma associated with not being able to read and makes it more unlikely to seek help trying yet again to learn.

That's what people don't get. It honestly pisses me off. "Johnny can't read because Johnny's a lazy brat." Well... if you keep calling Johnny a lazy brat, he's not going to want to read. But that's what happens. So I get it from that perspective.

I dunno, I think it depends on context. If you're talking about people who are illiterate or dyslexic - yeah, knock it off. People who can read and just don't because they'd rather argue with you, on the other hand, are morons.

[(Anonymous)]

You are projecting too hard. Literally nobody uses that phrase to refer to people with reading disabilities. What is means is don't go spouting your opinion on matters you are ill informed about.

It's your own fucking fault for getting offended by shit people say in casual conversation, especially when people aren't saying it with the intention to actually hurt someone. Stay triggered.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not offended. I'm saying it could be an issue.

[(Anonymous)]

People may not use the phrase specifically to refer to people with reading/learning disabilities, but it does kind of promote the "if you don't read for whatever reason you're unintelligent and worthy of mockery" which people with disabilities do internalize to a great degree. It may not be done with that intent but it still happens that way. And I speak from personal experience.

I don't know the specifics of this particular situation that the OP refers to, but I've seen it happen way too much where when a person admits to having difficulty reading or understanding something and gets mocked for being stupid or being a privileged baby who needs to have their hand held when it comes to being educated on stuff. And it frustrates me so damn much.

Like...I'm not one of those people who tries to get offended over stuff. I don't think it's worth the energy to get mad over every slightly problematic thing people say or do. But stuff like this bugs me.

Idk man, I just wish people could talk about stuff like this without people on either side getting angry and defensive, because I think it is valuable to think about and discuss the implications of our language. But JFC I hate how people think you have to be rargh angry in order to be sincere.

[(Anonymous)]

doesn't read =/= can't read

So pointing out that someone has made an error because they didn't read the article they were discussing as though they had read it is not at all the same thing as mocking people who are illiterate, dyslexic or have learning disabilities.

[diet_poison]

It really depends on context. I pretty much always see "wow do you even read" and the like used in arguments when they think the other person (or want to act like they think the other person) is lazy and doesn't pay attention. However, it does sometimes overlap with the "wow you're stupid aren't you" sentiment which is a terrible substitute for an argument.

I honestly have never seen it used in relation to dyslexia/learning disabilities/lack of education/some other external factor, not even obliquely, but of course that doesn't mean it's never happened.