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(So we're clear, this comment is more in response to the screencapped tumblr post than it is to the secret.)

I've mostly seen "doesn't read" in the context of "missed the point."

I have a friend who is an incredibly smart person. However, she likes arguing on facebook more than she likes reading, and has attacked me for "saying" things I never actually said. So in that sense? She doesn't read.

There's also a difference between a learning disability or otherwise struggling to read and being willfully uninformed. You don't even have to like to read fiction; but it saddens me when people won't even read a newspaper article. You don't even have to work that hard to find articles anymore, just google "shark tank is awesome." https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=shark+tank+is+awesome

>Trying to use dyslexia to hide personal retardation and ignorance

Why is this allowed.

Even the worst dyslexia doesn't make you illiterate.

I'm with the dyslexic tweeter, tbh. It's not usually used in the sense of "wow you're not paying attention or even trying" but to sound like "you'd have to be so stupid to struggle with reading." Which isn't always true, is a big part of the stigma associated with not being able to read and makes it more unlikely to seek help trying yet again to learn.

I think in some forms of useage, this insult could be like calling someone a retard. It's "harmless fun" to the insulter but there are real people who are hurt by these attitudes being reinforced in life.

I think the guy replying (Wheaton) maybe missed what the guy was trying to say and just took the opportunity to mock him, which seems like a smartass thing to do rather than anything else.

It's not usually used in the sense of "wow you're not paying attention or even trying" but to sound like "you'd have to be so stupid to struggle with reading." Which isn't always true, is a big part of the stigma associated with not being able to read and makes it more unlikely to seek help trying yet again to learn.

That's what people don't get. It honestly pisses me off. "Johnny can't read because Johnny's a lazy brat." Well... if you keep calling Johnny a lazy brat, he's not going to want to read. But that's what happens. So I get it from that perspective.

I dunno, I think it depends on context. If you're talking about people who are illiterate or dyslexic - yeah, knock it off. People who can read and just don't because they'd rather argue with you, on the other hand, are morons.

You are projecting too hard. Literally nobody uses that phrase to refer to people with reading disabilities. What is means is don't go spouting your opinion on matters you are ill informed about.

It's your own fucking fault for getting offended by shit people say in casual conversation, especially when people aren't saying it with the intention to actually hurt someone. Stay triggered.

I'm not offended. I'm saying it could be an issue.

People may not use the phrase specifically to refer to people with reading/learning disabilities, but it does kind of promote the "if you don't read for whatever reason you're unintelligent and worthy of mockery" which people with disabilities do internalize to a great degree. It may not be done with that intent but it still happens that way. And I speak from personal experience.

I don't know the specifics of this particular situation that the OP refers to, but I've seen it happen way too much where when a person admits to having difficulty reading or understanding something and gets mocked for being stupid or being a privileged baby who needs to have their hand held when it comes to being educated on stuff. And it frustrates me so damn much.

Like...I'm not one of those people who tries to get offended over stuff. I don't think it's worth the energy to get mad over every slightly problematic thing people say or do. But stuff like this bugs me.

Idk man, I just wish people could talk about stuff like this without people on either side getting angry and defensive, because I think it is valuable to think about and discuss the implications of our language. But JFC I hate how people think you have to be rargh angry in order to be sincere.

doesn't read =/= can't read

So pointing out that someone has made an error because they didn't read the article they were discussing as though they had read it is not at all the same thing as mocking people who are illiterate, dyslexic or have learning disabilities.

It really depends on context. I pretty much always see "wow do you even read" and the like used in arguments when they think the other person (or want to act like they think the other person) is lazy and doesn't pay attention. However, it does sometimes overlap with the "wow you're stupid aren't you" sentiment which is a terrible substitute for an argument.

I honestly have never seen it used in relation to dyslexia/learning disabilities/lack of education/some other external factor, not even obliquely, but of course that doesn't mean it's never happened.

Ugh. I hate the tumblr crowd that tries to make a mountain out of a molehill.
When I see "doesn't read" I don't think of people with reading disabilities, I think of someone who is talking like they know nothing of the story.

People will get offended over anything.

There's a difference between "can't read" and "doesn't read."

true.

The majority of people with dyslexia aren't illiterate, though. It's just tougher for us to read due to visual processing issues. Some dyslexics are put off reading for life by teachers and tutors who almost give up on them, but things are SO much better these days. Every library I've been to for the past 10 years, there are reading aids, there's tables with special lighting or filters you can put the book under, even little bookmarks that function as a colour filter for people who find it difficult to read text on a white page.

I have dyslexia and I got so much tutoring as a kid that it barely bothers me at all these days. I mean, I can't do maths for shit and scotopic sensitivity (the letters jumbling) is a pain in the ass on some days, but I have workarounds and I try to read everything I can.

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(Anonymous) - 2016-02-16 20:22 (UTC) - Expand

If a person can't read or communicate through written word then what are they doing on the internet or trying to talk to other people? Why do they imagine some offense when people say pay attention to what you are reading?

If you can't read in the first place, then maybe don't talk about stuff that requires you to have read it.

I actually think the best way to shut down tumblr bullshit is to ignore it entirely. I have a very peaceful tumblr and it's partially because I dont respond to asks in public.

I've noticed wank comes out more the more you respond in public.

It can depend on what asks. I answer nice asks in public and I get little to no wank.

I also tend to not get involved in any kind of debating anymore so there's that.

SA Yeah nice asks can be answered publicly, but I still generally don't because I feel like answering "Thanks!" clogs up my feed so I only answer in public if I have a lot to say.

Avoiding debates can also help, but I occasionally state my opinion and I still rarely get anyone on my case. I am just not fun for trolls because I won't acknowledge them.

Also having anon turned off helps a lot too. When I made my Tumblr, I made sure to have anon off, and I've never had wank in my inbox.

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(Anonymous) - 2016-02-15 02:24 (UTC) - Expand

Unless he's giving the lectures. then he is the new jesus in his own eyes.

I don't get that vibe at all from his posts.

I know too many people who willfully chose (and continue to choose) to remain ignorant by not reading to give the slightest of fucks when they or someone like them gets butthurt over their ignorance.

The Wheaton knows what's up.

The man openly hates his own fan base, blocks anyone who disagrees with him, derides and mocks the concept that anyone would DARE correct him on anything, and defends people like Anita Sarkeesian. Wheaton *IS* tumblr bullshit.

Agreed. Wil Wheaton is a douchebag.

Wait, what's wrong with Anita Sarkeesian, I just watched a bunch of her videos and they seemed interesting...?