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⌈ Secret Post #3333 ⌋

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[iCarly]

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[Sublunary: --enter the moonlight--]

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[Tokusatsu (Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, Ultraman)]

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[Harry Potter + Pokemon, Wonder Woman, Anne of Green Gables, Looney Tunes]

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[Kyuuketsuki Hime Miyu]

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[Usagi Drop]

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[Ranma 1/2]

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Spuffy. Spuffy is my Buffy OTP. It's a complete mess, they are both abhorrently violent towards each other, Buffy used him and before he got his soul back, Spike attempted to rape her. I don't care. I want them together. Not just together, but OOC fairytale 'and they lived happily ever after with their white picket fence' together.

(Most of this love stems from season 6, during which I also shipped Warren and Andrew, which was just as bad if not worse)

Oh, the Spuffy wank. Of her three main beaux, I did like that pairing the most.

For Andrew, I mostly liked it as unrequited that Andrew is still trying to get over after Warren's death.

I was very fortunate in that I was ten when Buffy ended so I missed the worst of the wank.

There's a couple of lines in canon that hint that Warren may have been manipulating Andrew to think they had a relationship in order to get his way, which seems very in character for Warren and was what I liked about the ship.

"beaux"? do they have computers in the civil war?

Nope. I just kickass at crosswords.

God. Now I desperately want to see a ship war from the 1850's. It would be so catty with ocassional detour into purple prose.

I was way into Spuffy. I've come to only ship Buffy/Spike/Angel as a threesome really. But Spuffy is a fun ship.

Angel bores me now that I'm an adult and I don't really know why. As a kid, I loved him and hated Riley, now I hate him and love Riley.

He bores me when he's alone or it is just him with Buffy. And Spike and Buffy are really unhealthy without the balancing factor. And the tension between Angel and Spike and their history is interesting. So that's why I like them as a threesome best. For me it just works better.

That seems rational. I'd probably like him better if I'd watched Angel the Series. And I like rivalshipping, so...

I have a soft spot for Spuffy, maybe because it does seem so much more messy and real? Plus, the two characters just seemed to spark together. I wish the writers had actually been able to handle it better; half the time, they seemed confused about what they were writing. I remember they actually had to come out and say, no, they weren't (deliberately) portraying Buffy as abusive.

I was probably predisposed to Spuffy since I started watching in Season 6 (while eventually watching DVDs of previous seasons at the same time), so the first time I saw Spike and Buffy interacting was when Spike saw Buffy, and realized she was back, and that scene and the look on his face just burned into my brain.

They definitely had a spark to them! And I think that's the thing with Buffy, is you want her to have that spark, and she was connecting with him at a time she had no other outward emotions.

I think that's the biggest problem, that they didn't realize what they were writing.

Season 6 was always my favorite and for a while I only owned seasons 1 and 6. So there I am, 14 and impressionable and watching nothing but Spuffy, so of course I grew attached.

I think I like season 6 to a point - but after Tabula Rasa, I felt that it really did veer off the road into nasty territory. And again, I am fine with writers venturing into that territory when those are the issues they want to explore, except in this case, it seemed the Buffy writers were always clarifying and essentially saying "no, you don't understand - you're not watching the show properly". Kind of the Anne Rice "you're interrogating the text from the wrong perspective" argument.

I feel like I would have liked Season 6 better than I do if I hadn't been involved in online fandom and aware of what was going on behind the scene with the writers.

But, nevertheless, I still love my Spuffy, as messy and problematic and difficult as it is. It was one of my first great fandom loves, so I guess that sticks.
:)

Yeah, I'm all for 'what the author says is canon' but if you have to clarify every single thing, you are maybe not writing very well. And season 6 kind of felt like 'HOW MANY BAD THINGS CAN WE WRITE ABOUT? ALL OF THEM? LETS DO ALL OF THEM!'

I was way too young for the fandom, and also too young to properly understand abuse (I was 10 when it ended and had grown up with the show, so I was mostly watching season 6 between the ages of 9 and 15ish) so I had no interaction with the authors and no interaction with people going 'ewwwww' so my love just kept growing.

Yeah, your first ships stick with you!

Oh, yeah, starting with Season 6 would be a little different than having been a BtVS fan before.

AYRT, yes, it was a little jarring seeing slicked-back-hair Evil Spike juxtaposed with Season 6 Spike.

That's actually something I've wondered about before, how much my jumping on point will affect which characters I sympathize with, or whether or not I would have come to sympathize with them anyway. I suspect I was always going to like Spike, because he is snarky and funny. But definitely knowing he was going to love Buffy gave me a different perspective to watch for as the series went along.

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