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[Good Omens, by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman]

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[Good Omens, by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman]

If it makes you feel any better, all angels are technically sexless.

Agendered and asexual. I don't see why the OP cannot write a post-apoc story with the same basic dynamics as a buddy-fic, and who cares about the "sexes" of a couple of creatures like that?

That's assuming OP is writing buddy fic and not something shippy, though. If you take a popular slash pairing and gender flip half of it just so you can write het romance, there may well be backlash.

If you're turning it into origfic, doesn't that remove the issue?

MTE

Well, if you're posting it as fanfic, good news! Genderswap is popular in every fandom I've been in. I'm not saying 'you're just homophobic' fans don't exist, but I do think they're less prevalent than people think they are. And I've already seen fem!Zira in this fandom.

If you're posting it as original fic, MORE GOOD NEWS! Provided you aren't a completely dreadful writer, no one should be able to tell it's inspired by GO, and therefor no one will care about the genderswap.

It's ok to not be into things, OP. Even if those things are gay.

Therefore =/= therefor

Therefore means thus or consequently.

Therefor is an archaic form meaning for that object or purpose, in exchange for this or that or it. Mostly used formally or in legal documents, therefor is an adverb and is related to the adverbs thereof which means of that, thereafter which means after that, and therein which means in there.

(Sorry for being a dick)

You're not at all a dick for correcting my grammar. You are the tiniest bit of a jerk for that being literally the only thing you responded to in my comment. That's rude.

That could also have been a legitimate typo.

If it's a novel, doesn't that sort of remove the problem of slash? I admit, I'm not that into writing about guys having sex with each other, but most fantasy novels go the fade-to-black route. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm fine with writing about guys kissing and holding hands.

Edited 2016-02-24 23:59 (UTC)

If you're going the full AU and filing off the serial numbers, then just write whatever you want. Or is it that you feel like you're homophobic for not having the ship be m/m in this version? There isn't really much point in forcing yourself to write something you don't want to. Chances are nobody would know, anyway.

Just write what you want.

-signed a gay

This is good advice.

-signed another gay

(no subject)

(Anonymous) - 2016-02-25 08:45 (UTC) - Expand

I'm gonna say, I'll be a little bit petty here I guess but people like you do irritate me in fandom, not going to lie. You have THE VAST MAJORITY of original works to read, het fandom is HUGE, etc. Why in the world do you need to latch onto one of the very few representations of characters that are something-other-than-completely-sanitized-100%-approved-heterosexual-cisgender characters? Aziraphale and Crowley don't even have genders or sexes, they have to make an effort.

But yeah, fans who have to genderbend a canonically male (or male presenting in this case) character in order to ship them? I do feel like that comes from a little bit of homophobia, because you're basically saying you love the dynamic, think they're super cute as individual characters and together, if only it weren't for that unfortunate gay thing.

(Semi related, I saw a MakoHaru fan do this and her entire blog was filled with pictures of Haru as a girl and Makoto as a guy and like at first maybe I thought the fan had a weird ladyboner for girl!Haru but then I checked more of her work and she'd turned Nagisa into a girl for ReiGisa stuff too. There was a Rin/Haru fan who did the same genderswap thing too and I remember there being wank. I just find this so, so weird and kinda gross.)

Yeah, fandom loves gender swaps like another anon said, but generally fandom only loves gender swaps when it's apparent the author isn't just genderbending 100% of the time because "ew, gay".

Are gay people solely defined by the sex they have and nothing else? Because if not, then it's entirely possible to support gay rights even if slash doesn't give you a special feeling in the pants area.

+1

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(Anonymous) - 2016-02-25 08:13 (UTC) - Expand

This.
If you're basically going "I like everything about these two characters together except the fact they're gay." It's like... writing Cap/Falcon MCU fic except Sam's racebent to white because you just don't find interracial romances hot.

It's like.. no one can force you to like interracial romance or gay romance, but at least you're honest that you're only doing it because you don't like reading about gay romance.

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(Anonymous) - 2016-02-25 18:15 (UTC) - Expand

If Aziraphale and Crowley were a canon couple, that'd be one thing, but they're not. They have no canon romantic relationship, they have no canon sexuality. OP isn't taking anything away by writing a genderswap fic - particularly if they write it then file the serial numbers off to make it origfic - they're just not adding another story to the pool.

If you are filing serial numbers then changing character gender is one way to bring new character dynamics into your story and thus make it more original.

You do you! If it's original enough, no one will ever have to know except you. That's perfectly legitimate.

Technically all angels need to make an effort first, and personally I'd accept every GO fics that are not crossovers to a certain other series. Don't let this fandom die :C

Just write whatever you want and let it fail on its own merits, not through OMG THE GAYS WILL HATE ME.

Solution: make Crowley a woman, too.

Now this I would read.

OP probably hates teh lezbeans though too.

Excellent idea! :D