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Politics Containment Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Politics!

Trump Cancels Rally

[(Anonymous)]

Apparently Trump just had to postpone a rally in Chicago due to too many protesters.

Any thoughts?

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[philstar22]

Sadly I think that in the case of Trump the protesters aren't helping. They are just fuel to the fire for the kind of person that supports Trump. I'm all for protests, I just think they should be strategic. And I don't think they are working in the case of Trump.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that they're probably not going to convince any Trump supporters but you gotta do something.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[philstar22]

I think working to convince people, especially young people to vote. The number of people voting in Republican vs. Democrat primaries was sad, and I think working on that would be a much more effective way of helping. And get the issues out there. Write about it, talk about it, let people see for themselves who Trump really is and what is policies would be.

I've actually been to a few protests, but they were all the sort that were designed to get issues in the media or to target companies or things that might actually change their policies. I think protests are a useful tool, but they have to be used right.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[(Anonymous)]

IDK, I heard an interview on CNN earlier and the guy said he's been hearing from republicans in upcoming state who were considering voting for Trump that some of the antics from the last few weeks (the sucker punches at rallies, his inability to distance himself from the KKK quickly, etc) have really turned them off and they're solidly against him now.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[(Anonymous)]

I'm glad that My Side won but I also feel like this is only going to get worse and more inflamed, especially if Trump gets the nomination, and it's hard to figure how far it'll go. I feel like we're going to see blood in the streets this summer.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[dethtoll]

If Trump gets the nomination I guarantee you the Republicans will lose the election. He's not worse than Ted Cruz, but he's utterly radioactive at this point and there's a lot of conservatives who will either not vote, vote Democratic, or write in their own candidate (a friend of mine plans to vote for Ice Cube if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton.)

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[philstar22]

I think Cruz is actually worse in terms of policies. But Cruz understand policies. Things under Cruz would be bad, but I don't think we'd lose all our allies with him whereas with Trump I think we would. And I'm not scared of Cruz having access to nuclear weapons, whereas with Trump... Trump is scary in his reactivism and in his lack of savy. He's not an idiot in terms of intelligence, but he is an idiot in terms of politics and the running of government.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[dethtoll]

Well, government isn't a business so he probably wouldn't run us into the ground the same way :P

In all seriousnessness, though, Trump has no personality. He stopped being a real person 30 years ago when he became Trump the Brand. I genuinely believe his being a nativist bombthrower who talks like a Youtube comment is all just a marketing strategy; he's recognized the modern Republican base for what it is -- racist and sexist and stupid and easily swayed by anyone who seems "strong" enough (read: manly, which is why he's done so well against his more sedate, soft-spoken competition) -- and is pandering to them directly. No pretense, no dog whistle terms, just whipping people into a frenzy. I would be very surprised if he didn't morph immediately into a proper statesman upon securing the nomination, especially now that a lot of the establishment GOP is deciding to grudgingly get behind him because they hate Cruz more.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[(Anonymous)]

I would be very surprised if he didn't morph immediately into a proper statesman upon securing the nomination, especially now that a lot of the establishment GOP is deciding to grudgingly get behind him because they hate Cruz more.

I agree with the first part of your analysis, but I don't see how this follows from it. He has no persona and cares for nothing besides instant gratification and power - what about that says "wants to be a statesman" to you?

I'm not saying he'll keep saying the same things, or being the same kind of insane that he is right now. I do think he'll keep doing whatever ridiculous thing benefits him the most and sounds the best in any given moment without any regard for decency or outcomes or morals, and I think it's dangerously naive to expect otherwise.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[dethtoll]

I'm not sure. I mean you've a point in that it could go either way with him but I fully expect him to change his personality to look like a proper politician. It's a marketing strategy, and nobody's better at marketing Trump than Trump.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[(Anonymous)]

I think Trump can win. I certainly think he's more electable than Cruz or Rubio, and probably Kasich as well. I think it's still unlikely but it's possible.

First, I don't believe for a second that there are a statistically significant number of conservatives who will stay home if it's Trump. They might not like him but once they see The Evil Bitch Hillary or The Socialist Sanders might get it, they'll show up. That's how American politics has worked for the last, like, 30 years. And also I think, you know, the fairy dust of a competitive race will work his magic and people will suddenly start finding reasons to think he's more reasonable than he is. It's gonna happen.

So if you believe that, the question becomes one about electoral math. And at that point it's not really a question of his likability or whatever. The question is, can he win something like Colorado, Iowa, Ohio, New Hampshire, and Florida. And I don't think that's impossible. Because I think he's going to be very, very popular with - and get great turnout from - white voters. And there are a lot of white voters in those 5 states. A lot of frightened suburbanites in particular, and I think he's going to strongly appeal to those voters in a general election scenario.

That's my nightmare anyway.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[dethtoll]

I'm choosing to be more optimistic tbh. I think how the general election plays out will depend quite a bit on what happens at the RNC.

Clinton is probably weaker than Sanders, though -- the GOP has spent literally decades convincing everyone she's the devil incarnate, and that's going to be a lot harder to get around.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[(Anonymous)]

I do find it funny that immediately after I said that Trump isn't going to suffer from his insanity because everyone is going to convince themselves he's reasonable, you called him a statesman

It's hard to say re: Clinton and Sanders. I think Sanders is stronger in New Hampshire, maybe marginally better in Iowa, but probably significantly weaker in Virginia so who knows if the trade-off is worth it. I think there's plenty of reasons for the right to hate whichever one gets the nomination, though, so in that sense it's rather immaterial.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[dethtoll]

I didn't call him a statesman. I said he would morph into one, or at least something resembling one, after securing the nomination, implying that he would be doing that to appeal to more people. It certainly doesn't mean I'm going to fucking vote for him. I'll thank you to read more carefully in the future.

I think it's fair to say that Trump and the rest of the GOP has almost completely lost the black, hispanic and Muslim vote -- which means huge chunks of the south, southwest and rust belt states could be up for grabs. As far as whether or not the Dem nominee is immaterial, I'm not sure. It's a big concern for me that a lot of Bern victims are claiming that if their savior doesn't get the nomination they're not going to vote, or worse vote Republican to "punish" America. Privileged white liberals having a tantrum, really; I'm voting Bernie but I don't care who wins as long as it's not the GOP.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[chardmonster]

And they did a good job! I've seriously seen Bernie fans using the same talking points as GOP stans, right down to Benghazi.

I'm pro-Bernie but boy do they make it hard.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[(Anonymous)]

Not just the Republicans. A lot of Sanders supports are also saying the same thing as the Republicans.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Clinton has always had a strong following regardless of how the political climate has been in the last few months. Sanders is more popular with the internet crowd, to be honest. Clinton is just a stronger candidate overall if you want to look purely at numbers.

Re: Trump Cancels Rally

[(Anonymous)]

I think the only protest that will do any good, the only protest we need is a snipers bullet the day he becomes president.

Re: Politics Containment Thread

[(Anonymous)]

How long does the american election go on for? It feels like a really long time, how do you guys stay interested?

Why is the voting rolled out by state? How come not done over 3 days like most places?

*honestly just confused what is going on and why it is taking so long*


Oh also side note I was at a seminar in our country about social entrepreneurship and some guys made a very confused question asking about socialism and bernie. He worded it very oddly though, so none of us are exactly sure what he was asking.

Re: Politics Containment Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Quite a long time but people usually don't care about it until after each party picks their candidate. The hoopla around Trump has brought more attention to it earlier than usual.

Re: Politics Containment Thread

[(Anonymous)]

It gets longer and longer every cycle.

The basic thing is that, in each election year, there are two parts. You have the primary season, when each side chooses their candidates. This is the part that's happening now, and the part that's happening in many different states - it's so spread out for... well, really pretty dumb historical reasons, but basically because this all started out as very ad hoc, state-based stuff, so each state would just do it whenever was convenient for them. The first primary is usually in January and it's usually pretty well decided by May or so.

The second part is the actual election. This is all held on one day (Tuesday after the first Monday in November) and has just the two candidates running against each other. Both parties will start it off by holding conventions in the summer where they'll officially nominate their candidates - historically this was often where the candidates were actually decided and you would have dramatic floor votes, but recently it's been a formality (although that might change this year). Then the election season would get started proper in late summer leading up to the election in November.

What's changed is that more and more people care earlier and earlier every year. I think a lot of it is increase in partisanship, but other than that I'm not really sure. So this time it was already getting pretty intense by, like, early fall last year even though the first primary wasn't till February.

How do we deal with it? Mostly by going insane.

Re: Politics Containment Thread

[dethtoll]

It's not just partisanship, it's also Citizens United. It used to be that just a few participants in the primaries would fight it out, and most of them would bail before the primaries even happen. We still see this with the Democrats. Ever since Citizens United allowed huge amounts of cash into campaigns, primary races (especially the Republican races since that's who most of the politically-active rich fucks who want to peddle influence support) have exploded with participants who are no longer being shut out and they jump in earlier and earlier because there's more people they have to elbow aside.

Re: Politics Containment Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Its endless