[ SECRET POST #3356 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3356 ⌋

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Comments

Re: When non-fandom media talk about fandom/fanfic...

[(Anonymous)]

"I do get kind of annoyed when media lurches down into fandom/conventions/fanfic and tries to sensationalize it and portray it as insane, perverted, whatever. But that's nothing new, they've been doing that for decades.""

Agreed. I wish it could just be considered normal and a regular hobby. I would also love because I'd love to see fanfiction not be treated as something you have to grow out of to be considered a "real writer".

Re: When non-fandom media talk about fandom/fanfic...

[(Anonymous)]

Oh agreed, but I don't think mainstream perception of fanfic even has gone so far to have a reputation of "practice writing". I am pretty sure every time I hear mainstream media talk about fanfic, it's perverted. Like, talk show hosts showing popular male actors all the fanfics slashing them (purposely picking the most ridiculous summaries), or something else really sexual and shocking like that, not to mention obsessive and creepy.

And then published authors who make really dramatic statements about how fanfic ~destroys their creative freedoms~ and ~rapes their characters~ and blahblah.

I'm not sure I've ever seen fanfic portrayed positively in mainstream media. Or even neutrally.

Re: When non-fandom media talk about fandom/fanfic...

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, I swear I'm not radfem even though this next statement is going to bring out the 'whatev radfem' trolls...

The way fanfic is portrayed in the media, I think it's because there's still a general perception that women are not sexual beings outside of scenarios where men are present or in control. Men especially seem to struggle with this idea.

Re: When non-fandom media talk about fandom/fanfic...

[(Anonymous)]

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I think it's more that culturally we tend to value and respect interests and perspectives which are typically thought of as masculine more highly than ones which are typically thought of as feminine. Feminine interests and perspectives tend to be belittled, dismissed, or ridiculed for being silly, trivial, shallow, excessively emotional, etc. Meanwhile, yes, there is some degree of questioning and pushback against masculine interests and perspectives, but for the most part they are respected or even glorified.

Fanfic's approach to sex and eroticism tends to be strongly feminine (as we typically define feminine). So much of it is about what the characters are thinking and feeling, about (mis)communication and pining and self-doubt and internal conflictedness, and insecurities and so on. And then it's also about extremely explicit, kinky-as-shit sex. And combining those two elements seems to make a lot of people, especially men, really uncomfortable. So many men (as well as a smaller percentage of women) seem to want all their porn sanitized: extremely explicit and kinky-as-shit is great, as long as it's just horny fucking. But whatever you do, don't bring thoughts and feelings and motivations and vulnerabilities into it - you know, "girl stuff" - because that's super embarrassing and off-putting.

Not that there's anything wrong with wanting your porn to be just horny fucking. It's a valid preference. The problem is that people who do want their porn to always be just horny fucking rarely seem to see porn involving thoughts and feelings and motivations and vulnerabilities as equally legitimate and valid.