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Thank you! The main reason I considered buying these games is because I love Dishonored & saw someone mention somewhere that it's similar to this series, which made me curious! Are they direct sequels to each other, or do they all have separate stories?

I've been playing some older series lately, so I'm trying to be less... idk, elitist? about older games & how they play, haha. Like, the first two Persona games, Metal Gear Solid & the first two Fallout games (though, well, I started the second one last month but it feels a bit like I'm forcing myself to play it because I like the series rather than because I actually like the game itself, if you get what I mean? I'll get around to finishing it, though), etc.

Anyway, thanks again!

If you like Dishonored, you'll almost certainly like Thief, as Dishonored is a crazy mashup of Thief with Deus Ex and Bioshock -- so you may also like those games as well :)

While they have their own plot arcs, each sequel builds on the events of the previous games, so yeah, there's definitely an over-arching story and theme. T1 is followed by T2 followed by T3, with T4 set very distantly later with different characters, including a different Garrett who might be considered a legacy character a la Link.

(FO2 is okay but the early parts of it really fucking drag; I don't think it stops sucking until maybe Modoc. I highly suggest you get KillaP's patch if you haven't already, and refer to Per Jorner's guide.)

As long as I'm talking about Looking Glass games, I have to recommend System Shock and its sequel. There's no better time to get into the fandom for this -- the original is getting a remake soon and a sequel's been announced after 16 long years :D If you like the first two Bioshocks at all, you'll very much like this series, as BS1 was intended to be a spiritual sequel.

(Here's an SS1 Enhanced Edition thread if you have trouble -- I've not tested this particular version of the game myself. Annnd here's the big fanpatch for SS2 though it requires a mod manager, which is linked.)

And here's Deus Ex plus some info about this particular version -- all you REALLY need are steps 1, 2 and 5.)

I'll probably end up buying the Thief games, then! Deux Ex is another series I'm mostly unfamiliar with. Thanks for the recs, though! I'll definitely look into them.

I have mixed feelings about Bioshock! I've only played the first game so far, which didn't completely appeal to me in the sense that is has a undeniably cool aesthetic, but I wasn't all that into the story (or how it seemed to revolve around the twist?). Also, it was totally on the verge of being almost too creepy for me, since I'm a total coward when it comes to horror, haha (I want to finish The Last of Us so badly, but it seriously creeps me out).

I appreciate all the links, too! They're really helpful.

Ehhhhhh Bioshock 1's story is something of a hamfisted mess due to Ken Levine. He had nothing to do with BS2 though, which IMO has not only the cooler aesthetic, but the better story (especially the Minerva DLC.)

SS1 and 2 are pretty dogged love letters to 80s/early 90s cyberpunk.

I do recommend Deus Ex as one of my favorite series of all time (it shares a lot of the same vibe with Metal Gear Solid despite being different games, which is probably why I got so thoroughly sucked into the original about 15 years ago, as I was a big MGS fan at the time.)

You can skip Invisible War, though, it's awful. Human Revolution (which came out a few years ago) is a prequel to DX1, and Mankind Divided is a sequel to DXHR -- so it's not necessary to have played Invisible War to enjoy them.

To be fair, I have to give Bioshock credit for blatantly explaining all the problems I had with the way the story was playing out, hahaha. I kept being like, "dude, I don't friggin' care about helping this Atlas guy, just move on and get out of here already." So I guess there was a reason for him not doing that, at least! But it's probably not great that my focus was on finishing the game instead of wanting to see how it played out.

I'm brand new to Metal Gear Solid, but I'm enjoying the hell out of it (I actually just finished MGS3 the other day). If Deus Ex is at all similar to it, I'll probably like it a lot.

Yeahhh Bioshock's main plot was kind of pants, really. I liked that it tried to present a meaningful exploration of laissez faire capitalism and mid-20th century human hubris, but it was so ham-fisted about it. BS2 tackles its particular themes much more even-handedly. You can skip BSI, though I recommend sitting through it at least once to do the DLC.

MGS is a great series! I got into it with MGS1 oh-so-many years ago; I plan to do a series replay of it and Deus Ex this year. I've not played the new one, so it'll be interesting.

I already own Bioshock 2 & Infinite, so I'll get around to playing them eventually. I've heard the second one is better about its themes, so I look forward to that!

MGS is super interesting to me because it seems so popular, but it also seems so unique? Like, usually when you're playing older games (or older media in general) you can tell how it'll go by all the more-recent stuff that's been obviously influenced by it, but I never really get that feeling when it comes to this series (which may just be because I haven't played very many games, of course). The fourth-wall stuff, especially!

I think you'll enjoy Thief and Deus Ex, then; they share very similar design philosophies despite being different kinds of games. No fourth-wall breakage, but definitely a strong sense of place and internal consistency :)

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