[ SECRET POST #3358 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3358 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Objectification question

[(Anonymous)]

It's a function of grammar.

In English sentences, the subject is the actor in the sentence, the object is the acted-upon. "He saved her" "I want you" "We died for her" and "He fucked her" are all sentences where the subject is male and the object is female. Even in the second and third, where gender is ambiguous, the roles being fulfilled are coded male and female.

Our society takes it for granted on a very deep level that men act, while women are acted upon. Men fuck, women are fucked. Men are active, women are passive. Men exercise, women diet. Men get angry, women get depressed. Menswear is functional, women's wear is decorative. It shows up throughout everything.

The term "object" is a grammatical one. All else flows from that.

Re: Objectification question

[(Anonymous)]

That's actually a myth. Objectification started in feminist theory and was adopted into a grammatical idea. The root is in feminism and all else flows from that.

Re: Objectification question

[(Anonymous)]

...really. You want to claim that the notion of subject and object in English grammar dates only from the last 60 years? That's where you want to go with this? Because that's checkable.

Re: Objectification question

[(Anonymous)]

Lol, 60 years!

Feminist theory has existed for centuries, sweetie.

Re: Objectification question

[(Anonymous)]

Yes and no. Feminist thought and writing has existed for centuries, yes, but we tend to date cohesive feminist theory from the mid-20th century, and while second-wave feminism tends to be thought of as dating from the enormous success of Friedan's The Feminine Mystique, it would be more accurate to date it from 1949 and de Beauvoir's The Second Sex, the first major attempt at cohering various disparate feminist notions into something resembling theory.

None of which bears on the claim you're attempting to make that the concepts of subject and object in English are a creation of feminist theory, a truly extraordinary claim for which you have yet to provide even a word of support.

Learn what weight class you're in before punching... sweetie.

Re: Objectification question

[(Anonymous)]

*Standing ovation*